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[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What the fuck is that lumberjack measuring, that's a carpenter.

[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

lol - dude, they measure so many logs. Even with all the modern tech and fern gully esk death machines, it's still a battle to keep 10 different products within their very specific cut windows.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago

Just an fyi, in English it's spelled "-esque", like "fern gully-esque". I looked it up just to make sure it wasn't a regional spelling (sometimes words vary in spelling and pronunciation across regions because English can't keep its shit together), and I learned something interesting! Some languages (like dutch and German) spell it the way you did!

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love how we watched Fern Gully, saw the machine monster, and thought "Yeah, we need more stuff like that!"

And now over two thirds of all wildlife is dead and gone since 1970.

[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People need houses, toilet paper and pallets to ship all of their food around the world. As with most things, the problem is the size of the human population: not the specific methods by which we go about destroying the earth. There's just too many of us. The balance is off.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really. This argument is just eco-fascism.

We could cut down on the amount we consume, and be fine with our current population, but that would make the capitalists sad, so we don't.

[–] Piers@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Something else people don't stop to think about is that we could also consume the same amount with a lower negative impact but just create less excess value whilst doing so. If we produced the goods people use every day to a good quality to no purpose other than because people need (want) them we could do so far more ecologically sensitively than we do now. The only difference would be that some tangentially involved rent-seeking lunatic would have to settle for a thinner coat of gold leaf on the toilet seat in the staff bathroom on their second yacht.

There's an astonishing amount of deadwood we can carve away from our production lines in the form of wealth production for the existing wealth class before we need to ask ~~their serfs~~ regular people to make sacrifices.

Or at least there was. We've pushed things to such a state of emergency that we probably do now need to make every possible change on all fronts if we wish to minimise the devastation from climate change. We still need to ensure we include the main driving factors in causing these issues within that though.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's also the fact that my profession consumes large sheets of steel for vanity. But putting people to work is the prime directive, doing useful work is far lower on the priority list. Questioning useless waste of time and energy is even lower again, much lower than the goal of preventing excess free time.

Until you people change, I will continue consuming your carbon-heavy electricity and steel, and consuming my time, for the purpose of ensuring I am allowed food and housing. And I will eat a red meat diet out of spite.

Sounds like a terrible trade for all parties, but you lot seem to prefer it.

[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't have a single clue what you are talking about just FYI.

[–] Piers@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I hadn't read his comment when I made mine but it says the same thing if that helps.

[–] Piers@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a terrible trade for all parties, but you lot seem to prefer it.

It makes me want to scream constantly.

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I worked with arborists for a while, they didn't measure shit

[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Arborist is a totally and utterly unrelated job to 'lumberjack', or logger. They don't produce logs for framing, construction, landscaping or appearance grades. Arborists generally take care of problematic trees and then chip up the waste.

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

"Totally and utterly unrelated" is very dramatic