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Like it's only so long until a user there posts a dumbass "Kick Tankies out of Lemmy" meme to try and start shit to get us defedded and hexbears take the bait immediately and pile on to tell them what a dumbass they are.

Like as dumb as the "death to NATO" being compared to "death to the people of NATO" stuff was, blahaj and hexbear are the largest queer instances and I quite like taking part in it and their trans communities, idk it's kinda nice to interact with people who don't have the same kind of hexbear brainrot where I see the words "pumpkin spice", "Maoist cult", "Soyfacing PMC radlib" or "rock stacking" and immediately start to go :sus: mentally, it feels refreshing to be able to talk to an incredibly queer positive community that doesn't have the same kind of internet poisoning as all of us. And it seems kind of assholy that some of the users here just don't give a shit and want to post and dunk until we get defedded by every instance, this isn't like lemmy.ca where they were all dicks that none of us liked anyway and were complaining about us doing hate speech against fucking landlords or lemm.ee where almost every time time a user from there pops their head into our threads here they say something racist or transphobic. iirc blahaj.zone was actually the second most requested instance to federate with in the pre federation discussions due to how good of a queer space it was.

Like their first defed thread was a complete embarrassment because there were a load of users there that actually had positive opinions towards us and then they saw the shitshow happening once from the post reaching active and changed to be way against us which tbh, fair enough.

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[–] git@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

fuck authoritarianism

Ok, so define it first. Bonus points if you don’t consult the state department.

The UK is currently run by an unelected, unopposed dictatorial tyrant with no mandate. Just something to think about while you try and invent a definition.

fuck hierarchies

How do you intend to organise?

fuck commie cops

I don’t see the People’s Police running protestors over or shooting minorities on the regular.

[–] riceandbeans161@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

let’s have a look at your wonderful communist china

social credit system and total surveillance. One wrong word and you’re boned.

the people’s police? You mean like Tianenmen Square?

And what about your wonderful communist utopia of Russia? Raping ukrainian children?

[–] CriticalResist8@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know there are actually people living in China, including foreigners, and you can ask them about the "social credit score" right? And they all say they've never heard of it. On Baidu they actually joke about it because westerners think it actually exists. You can even ask them any other question about China you want! You don't have to limit yourself to one topic!

OP explicitly said

Bonus points if you don’t consult the state department

You don't get the bonus points. In fact, you get points deducted.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Woah, I had no idea social credit was made up. That kinda blows my mind.

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

iirc it's actually an internal system for cracking down on corrupt businesses, not individual people but it was reported on incredibly disingenuously in the west and then redditors started talking about it like it was this Orwellian super surveillance (i.e. like the system they currently live in in America)

Here's something by the Canadian government informing Canadian businesses on how to act in China: https://www.tradecommissioner.gc.ca/china-chine/cscs-scse.aspx?lang=eng

As part of China’s push towards data-driven governance, the Corporate Social Credit System (CSCS) is to be a single, standardized reputation-based scheme for both local and foreign firms doing business in China, ensuring their regulatory compliance and improving their corporate behaviour.

Also I'm pretty sure I saw another article talking about its exact functionality at some other point but I can't find it rn.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

It's a really good example of how something very widely discussed in popular media can be very misleading. There is a credit system, there's a kernel of truth, but the reporting is completely different from what's really happening. But because the reporting was so pervasive many people have accepted it as an article of faith and even if you try to show them what's really going on they'll retreat from it without engaging with the idea they might have been misled.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

There is a social credit score for businesses (to ding them for anti-social practices like fraud, littering, etc), but nothing recognizable exists for individuals

[–] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Frank@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Our theory is that the tank commander was the guy's son and Tank Man was asking him what he wanted for dinner.

[–] CriticalResist8@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

My theory is he was clearly a hardline Maoist, he's trying to get the tanks to go back towards the square. "What do you mean you're done! You're done when I say you're done!"

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

total surveillance

My home country literally has a higher level of CCTV cameras per person than any other country in the world, closely followed by the US and then Australia. America has the highest police funding per capita in the world, far outstripping the UK in second place. The snowden leaks revealed that the NSA uses it's ability to track people and read their messages and look at anything saved on their computers for NSA agents to stalk their crushes at all hours, find nudes they'd taken on their phone, see if they were flirting with other people and had an internal culture of showing the nudes (i.e. ones saved on the victims phone and not willingly shared with the NSA creep) of the people they were stalking (and were looking at without their knowledge, let alone consent) to other people in the office, they even had an informal term for this called 'lovetapping' iirc. If you live in a five eyes country, then every bit of information your native intelligence agency has on you is shared with all of the other nations in the agreement.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Liberal can't read, knows nothing with extreme confidence.

Go away. We don't have to be nice to you here.

"I uncritically believe all the propaganda the state department shovels in to my little piggie maw, because unquestioning acceptance of everything the US State Department says is the core of Anarchism"

There are many many Anarchist critiques of the behavior of the AES states. Well founded, valid arguments that need to be considered. State Department propaganda is not on that list, and you're an embarrassment to everyone who has fought and died for Anarchist causes.

[–] Graphite22@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

lmao put a little more effort into it ya dork