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Thanks Dems for doing jack shit about abortion bans, trans bans, the cost of living, the drone strikes, global warming, COVID.

Might as well just call them Blue conservatives. The outcome of voting for them is much the same.

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[–] LinkedinLenin@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

we really need to organize outside of electoral politics. might as well vote too if it's low effort and there's actually any hope of harm reduction (although it's worth considering that a person that is guaranteed to vote and vote blue is a person the dems feel safe dismissing)

but ultimately electoralism as it currently stands in the US is a mechanism designed to attract and dissipate social energy, like a lightning rod.

[–] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Voting as part of an ongoing, multi-faceted strategy of civic and social engagement is fine. Especially because there are times where it directly leads to positive outcomes, like state Constitutional amendments that check legislative power. Voting can instead be a method of organizing, where after the election you keep together and continue to be activists in more direct ways.

Ballot questions are under attack by Republicans in many states because they're the last remaining avenue for many political causes in the states that they've all but made themselves the single party dictators of.

[–] Hemi03@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its sad how so many leftists have given up on voting, cause its not quick and sexy and all the choices suck. This pessimistic outlook gives the right more power and is so preventable. Voting for the lesser Asshole, dosnt hurt (to much).

[–] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. Like, we should vote for the exclusive reason that a Democrat won't vote to pass a national abortion ban in a world without Roe v Wade. Democratic governors aren't ordering their CPS agencies to rip trans kids away from affirming parents or purging the state university system of leftists.

[–] Hemi03@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But please still vote. You can walk and chew gum.

[–] LinkedinLenin@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

I think I'm more inclined to beg the people who are advocating for voting that they should organize. Everyone already knows they should vote. But when I go to org meetings in a lot of places, turnout is abysmal.

like sure, do both. but right now the half that most people aren't doing is organizing, and that happens to be 95% of the battle compared to voting.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

zizek-preference

I'm just a dude, and I've done more to elevate workers than Biden. I'm not voting for him, ever. Sorry.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Hey I still vote every year, now I just write in cooler candidates like Fidel Castro

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