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lemmy.world doesn't owe you anything, they don't benefit from additional users, and they're definitely not obligated to put themselves in legal jeopardy to keep you around.
If this isn't a Redditor moment I don't know what is
Haha yeah, maybe so. All I'm trying to say is, if there's a community of people so childish that they're going to oppose this announcement with this much vigor, then I'd rather they be opposing me, too.
Says the child.
The poster didn't mention anything about LW owing us anything or if they're obligated to users in any way.
I appreciate LW, and i understand their stance on piracy. But I'm also interested in how we regular users can easily find servers that are more flexible with their policies.
This whole conversation is getting me legitimately frustrated. The unmitigated gall to say that creating an account somewhere else is "a real chore" when speaking to a group of people who are running this place for free and making it available to him, for free, is staggering. Maybe it's just a lack of understanding or caring how much work it takes. I've done stuff like this before, it's not simple. Probably if Antik were doing what he does for lemmy.world at a job, he'd be making six figures at that job. It's fine and nothing wrong with them choosing to contribute that, but going to their server and then shitting all over them for not doing it the way you want them to, in a scenario like this where all they're trying to do is protect themselves legally, is an incredibly entitled, childish, rude, selfish, and ultimately destructive thing to do.
It's very different from reddit running their business, screwing the users because it's not about the users, and people getting upset with them. There are no investors here, there is no IPO or marketing budget. It's just some people deciding to host a service they think is important, and you're coming on here whining about how they need to do what you say, even if it puts them in legal danger, and if they don't you'll go somewhere else. Okay, sounds good. Go.
You are correct that Railcar8095 didn't explicitly say that lemmy.world owed him the hosting of this pirated content. He just made vague passive-aggressive statements which implied it, with threats to no longer bless the admins by consuming resources they were choosing to make freely available to him, if his requirements weren't met.
Staggering.
I agree with you, but I guess we now have the proofs that the assumed "nicer community" on Lemmy is not that completely nice overall.
You made a lot of good points, I guess people just don't understand (or want to) what it takes to manage such a server.
I think that's a lot of it. The internet being made of free services for so long has created this sort of "I sit on my ass and the internet is supposed to all come to me and if I don't like something I'm going to demand to speak to the manager" mentality. That's fine for some things, but on a community-run server where people have no clue the level of work and the generosity being put in by the people they're talking to, it genuinely pisses me off.
I actually don't really care about Lemmy people being nice; I was a big fan as of two months ago because it was full of weirdos and tankies and creative people being genuine about their weird cantankerous ways. Now it seems like the people whose heads are just filled with wet newspaper are here in force, and it makes me sad.
Appreciate your response.
And i don't mean to be daft. But I don't know where to start to find somewhere if any that suits me better than LW.
And that is a problem with something as decentralised as Lemmy is, to be a reddit competitor The layman has too many options and won't seek a server that might suit them better. LW was a good starting point for me, I will probably look around for a server that isn't as risk averse, but not everyone would.
Why are you being so hostile?
I'm not being hostile, I'm being direct. Read it again. If I said what I really felt about talking that way to the people who are bending over backwards to keep this service operating for him, for free, then it would be hostile, but I didn't do that.