Its so funny how you guys became so used to being able to live in an echo chamber of western capitalist propaganda on reddit, then moved here, then had that bubble popped by us and lemmygrad, then became INCREDIBLY DESPERATE to get away from opinions you previously were sheltered from. Its just a funny reaction to witness.

Probably not the most extreme example but it was relatively easy to find

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

uh, am I supposed to see an issue with that statement?

Dougee we've gotten transphobes, pedos, racists and incels coming into our instance, if that's the worst you got from us, consider yourself lucky

[–] Doug@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So because some people are so much worse it's ok to be crappy? That doesn't really jive with me. We should all always be trying to be better than we have been before.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those "crappy" people prove the point the op you quoted was making, people in other instances ARE hyper sensitive to critiques of western capitalism, that's just an easily observable fact, and it's not rude or out of order to point it out

People in this instance including me are more than willing to engage in good faith with those curious about our politics, but there will be no toleration of bigotry or blind faith in a vicious ideology that is cooking the earth

If we're defedrated because of those principles, so be it shrug-outta-hecks

[–] Doug@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

Some are, yeah. I'm happy to be involved in similar discussions and I'm fine parting without agreement. You don't even need to leave the comments below my original one here to see that it isn't a universal position though. We are more often judged by our worst than not but that doesn't seem to fly with at least a few people here.

[–] Zodiark@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So because some people are so much worse it's ok to be crappy

Yeah. People reciprocate affection and vitriol, and being civil towards bigots is not a virtue. It's just a point of exploitation for bad faith posters to exacerbate divisions and legitimize their bigotries.

Also, it's the internet. Log off. I set my feed to local to avoid the other lemmy instances. Do that on midwest.social please.

That doesn't really jive with me. We should all always be trying to be better than we have been before.

The vulgarity and dismissiveness come forth in Hexbear after an established pattern from a user, native or visiting, of bad faith arguments, bigotry, and apologia for anticommunist institutions, policies, and states. People who come from other instances, that act in the aforementioned manner, aren't starting from the position of blind and unwilful ignorance curious of the world, political theory, or political economy and willing to know, discuss, and consider alternative perspectives.

Those bad faith posters, when discussing politics, work backwards from their conclusions. They engineer reasons for their prejudices and are unable and unwilling to overcome cognitive dissonance, reject all counterarguments as propaganda and just refer people as bots/paid shills/stooges or other dehumanizing flags to label dissidents.

If you're not a concern troll, agree to disagree, and go away. Ask your instance to defederate if its unbearable for you.

[–] Doug@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

work backwards from their conclusions. They engineer reasons for their prejudices and are unable and unwilling to overcome cognitive dissonance, reject all counterarguments

From what I've seen this is not unique to people outside hexbear

agree to disagree

Happy to. Hopefully we can agree on other things in the future