A lot of us know by now that Substack has a Nazi problem. It not only profits from fascist voices, it actively promotes their work and recruits them. And it's funded by Silicon Valley anti-democracy billionaires like Marc Andreesen — the same type of people who are, right now, raiding the US government to basically cut funding for social services and scientific research, and to steal money for themselves.

Still, a lot of talented writers — including some that I subscribe to — publish on Substack. But others have moved to Ghost, an open source and non-shitty-tech-bro newsletter service. These include Casey Newton's publication Platformer, Molly White's newsletter Citation Needed, and plenty of others. From the beginning, 404 Media decided to publish on Ghost because, as I understand it, Substack sucks.

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If you already have a Substack, Ghost has written documentation explaining how to migrate your subscribers (including paid ones) to a new Ghost newsletter. Since both Substack and Ghost use Stripe as a payment processor, your paid subscribers don't have to do anything to continue paying you.

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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 8 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, Ghost is great. I'm not trying to say any bad thing about it. I think they're slightly different: Substack went to bat in a big way to foster a community where real journalists could do their journalism there, and get paid for it, and to a large extent it worked. That's why there are so many high-profile lefties writing there. Ghost is trying to set up a FOSS-style platform that anyone can use. Ghost has monetization too, but they didn't prime the pump with it nearly as much as Substack did.

They're both great. I think it's pretty likely that anyone who's screaming about Nazis on Substack is just looking for reasons to scream, and the Nazis have very little to do with it except as an excuse.

[–] Nursery2787@lemmy.ml 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That and the nature of this community lol. I think everybody reading this would prefer federated/distributed communication over centralized control.

Nazis on a server? Don’t visit that server. Nazis visit your server? You got some simple decisions to make on if your server is going to be a Nazi server.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

So like I said, the whole thing is pointless, because Substack changed their minds and kicked out the Nazis about a year ago. Anyone who is attacking them for being a Nazi platform is looking for an excuse, because it isn’t true anymore.

That’s the point, right? Give public pressure to platforms so they will deplatform the Nazis? What sense does it make to fail to notice when they do, and pretend that are still hosting Nazis, and talk incessantly about it when some important non-Nazi is just trying to pursue the critically endangered act of journalism on this platform which has no Nazis?

Why would you do that?

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world -2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

The real problem is that there are crazy people who define anybody right of them as a Nazi.

But, we're not ready to have that conversation yet

[–] DoPeopleLookHere@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

Views like......

[–] Nursery2787@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Found the Nazi lol

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

A great example of what I'm talking about.

"Disagree? You're a Nazi"

You're cheapening the word and helping them become normalized.

[–] techforwhat@lemmy.today 3 points 19 hours ago

Really glad you brought the opposite perspective to the table here 🙏 thank you!