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Another distraction meant to divide. We, the people in the US, love you Canada. I can see why you hate our president, but most of us hate him too.
I don’t by default dislike Americans, but I don’t think I can trust Americans by default anymore.
He got reelected after Jan 6, after project 2025 was released publicly, after “dictator on day one”, after everything.
There are a TON of Americans I deeply respect. But the speed at which you turned your backs on us, and the lack of internal outcry speaks volumes. Over 100 years of cooperation thrown down the drain in less than a single month.
First of all, I personally did not turn my back on you. Trump and his fellow baddies did. Second, as I said in another thread, he legally cheated and probably illegally cheated as well. He knew he was going to win long before Biden showed he was old and his polls were bad. I think he even said something like, "Don't worry about the election, that's covered." or something like that.
It's probably wise not to trust us completely, especially in rural areas. I would treat us like family you lost touch with for a long time that you used to love to hang with, but you've heard some shady things about.
You're complaining that Canadians seeing the US as an enemy nation is divide and conquer, but this screed against the rural peoples of your own country is just dandy???
As someone who has the misfortune to live in a rural area, it’s high time that we a society (those of us who actually WANT a society) recognize that a good portion of the people who make up that rural population are utterly lost. They need to be left behind before they drag all of us down with them. It’s not nice, it’s not pretty, but we cannot and will not have any kind of functional union again until we cut out this rot that allowed the Trump government into power.
And I'm not against people having this recognition! I'm just saying, it's hypocritical to tell Canadians we can't see the US as an enemy nation if it acts that way, but it's okay for urbanite Americans to see rural Americans as their enemy. Either it's divide and conquer in both cases or it's recognizing political reality in both.
The rural vs the city has already been divided and conquered. There are trumpers in the city (libertarians) and there are progressives in rural communities (they'll still be friends but they can't talk about politics). It's the way it is now.
No screed.
You missed my point - if you're saying Canadians recognizing the present reality that the US is an enemy nation of Canada is divide and conquer, I don't see how that doesn't apply to how you talk about urban/rural divides. Either acknowledging the political reality of a situation is divide and conquer or it's not.
You have to understand, most Americans have no idea this is going on, or at least the extent. We live in an information dystopia.
Does that make us idiots? Yeah. But I think "disloyal" is the wrong word, and in fact many Americans are just overly loyal to the feeds and influencers warping their heads.
With all due respect...
Canada's problems rank pretty low on most Americans concerns at the moment.
It's like if you're neighbor's house is burning down, and you come out to complain that the fire engine sirens woke you up from a nap and you're upset we haven't apologized yet...
Sorry and all that, but we have bigger concerns right now.
I think it's more like:
Your neighbor's house is burning down, and they've been stacking dry branches, twigs, and leaves on the side of their house that faces yours, and their kids illegally turned on a hydrant to play in and never turned it off so there's no water pressure, and you see embers floating towards your roof.
I think we're at the stage where it's time for Canada to get out the earth moving equipment and dig a fire break between us.
I don't think they expect us to care, it's more like they're coming to the rational conclusion that we're a lost cause and they need to protect themselves from the dumpster fire we started.
Am Canadian, yep this is exactly what it is.
The us has always been a risk to rely on but the benefits outweighed it. But that’s getting less every day so we have to decide when to cut our loses and move on.
Then actually do something, we've been begging you.
What would you do? He legally cheated and probably had a light mix of illegally thrown in. What exactly should I do?
Gum up the works. File fake reports with ice from burner phones. Burn cop cars. Force their hand. Make them work for every byte they take iff the servers.
Anything more than a single day protest and resignations.
The bigger issue is most of the population isn't aware of this.
https://www.axios.com/2025/02/14/arizona-voters-trump-elon-musk-executive-orders
This is one example of many, but people are still largely OK with Trump. America is stuck in filter bubbles like you wouldn't believe, and it's getting worse.
I... Don't know how to fix that. I'd fuck up Facebook, Twitter, or cable news at any opportunity, but they rule people's minds now.
If you can pull a few people out of filter bubbles, it helps. But it's up to you to decide if it's worth the investment, it really depends on where you are and what you can do.
You can also engage in one-person propaganda efforts, like putting up critical posters/stickers. Just don't get caught.
If you love us, put a stop to this. Because right now Trump is literally spouting the exact same rhetoric about Canada that Putin was spouting about Ukraine before the invasion.
How many of us get to die at the hands of American guns and bombs while you say "It's OK, we still love you, it's just our President who's an asshole"?
Okay, tell me how we're supposed to stop the most heavily guarded dude on the planet with the biggest military. He also has every education and financial record on every citizen. Go...
Don't ask me, ask the people in your own country organizing acts of resistance right now. Get involved, ask them what they need, ask them how you can help. Even small acts of resistance add up. Doing something, anything, inspires others to get involved, and it builds networks. Eventually, you're probably looking at something like a general strike, but you're never going to get there if people don't start organizing in small ways right now.
You said put a stop to it like we have a choice. Canada has a lot of the same things firing up, I suggest you guys follow your own advice on that. Still love you though.
You overestimate our fellow Americans.
I do not:
Trump's Job Approval Rating at 45%; Congress' Jumps to 29%
45% is still too high for me to trust Americans.
Everyone I talk to has about even odds of being a nazi
Well, a good portion of the Nazi's don't know they're the baddies. I know, still Nazis, but they think they're fighting for a job they don't want. They're poor and miserable and want to blame others, trump let's them do that.
The rest, you can tell by if they wear a red hat, have bumper stickers that have an american flag or eagle on it or looks uncomfortable in city settings. If they call themselves a Libertarian, that's also a big red flag (pun intended). They give off pretty loud signals.
Okay, then they’re either an idiot or a nazi or both. Still makes me want to avoid them.
Me too brother, me too.
'Disapprove' covers a very wide variety of opinions, most of them very milquetoast. Any poll on the topic with differentiation between "Somewhat Disapprove" and "Strongly Disapprove" will result in a marked minority in "Strongly Disapprove".
Americans don't hate Trump, by and large. Those of us who pay attention to politics hate Trump. And we are a minority.
This isn’t a distraction, it’s a foreign government threatening us with an economic war specifically to try to annex our country and then doing the things it said it would do to try and make that happen.
The bar is “don’t hate Trump” and ya’ll’re barely hanging onto a majority in the regard only based on recent polls and you elected him with a majority. Your country is balls to wall towards the far-right and I don’t care for your worthless centrists, either.
I’m sorry you have to deal with this, but fuck the US and the vast majority of its citizens. Your “love” means fucking nothing to us.