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The Communist Manifesto? Is that a video game?

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[–] Fibby@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hot take: telling a lib to read State and Revolution probably won't work or radicalize them.

[–] KurtVonnegut@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed. The Lib --> Leftist pipeline for westerners needs to start with youtube videos that seem inoffensive on the surface, like Second Thought, Hakim, etc. Then after the more approachable video content, they might be willing to dig into theory. It's like trying to convert someone to Christianity by telling them to read the Book of Revelations.

[–] charlie@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Honestly, Second Thought is what started my lib->leftist pipeline. I owe them so much, lmao

[–] ComradeCmdrPiggy@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because they won't read it anyway?

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

State and Rev is mostly a DemSoc vs RevSoc debate along with theoretical details on the latter, it's not a "self-identifying liberal" vs socialist thing.

It's a common but unproductive habit to wave favored books at people like they are scripture. I think State and Rev is great, but I would never tell someone to read it as a first Marxist work.

[–] NoGodsNoMasters@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Yeah no one really reads theory until they're already a socialist and are curious to learn more about it