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[–] Yllych@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

just an FYI the Ukrainian government is attempting ,since the colour revolution, to destroy the usage of minority languages , beginning with Russian, Belarusian, and Yiddish (!!!). Considering the government's affiliation with reactionary militias, this doesn't bode well.

Personally I find the common usage of genocide pretty broad, but the specific targeting of an ethnic group in Ukraine means the word genocide fits to describe what the Ukrainian government has been trying to do for the last 7 years before the war properly started.

I don't want to be mean since you didn't just call us ruzzian bots and shills. But, to call Ukraine just a "troubled" country and insist that Russia must be worse somehow shows that you do not yet have the necessary understanding of historical backgroundthat led to the war in the first place.

As to what I think the best outcome would be, obviously if all working peoples in Russia and Ukraine who get subjected to these wars joined together in a common class struggle to create a dictatorship of the proletariat that would be great. But left wing parties aren't doing very well in Eastern Europe unfortunately. So, barring some upsurge in left wing mobilisation, areas that have a majority of ethnic Russians should be given a choice to either join the Russian federation or create an independent state, Ukraine should be barred from joining NATO, and all Azov/right sector militants should be tried for their crimes of 2014.

Tbh I don't see any of this happening within a peace deal considering the military situation heavily favours Russia over NATO, I think the end result will be determined simply on whether or not the Russian army would like to make Ukraine into a rump state and what message they are wanting to send to Africa, Asia, and south america as we enter a world without total American dominance.