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[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

the Soviet Union and their legendary inefficiency

You said it yourself: the soviet union's inefficiency is largely that, a legend. What's more efficient, to have full employment including most women, or to keep a potential third of your workerbase unemployed? This isn't to say there weren't problems in the USSR or that it was almighty, but there's no serious study or metric by which it was more inefficient than capitalist countries. In fact, the post-soviet republics, 34 years after the dismantling of the country, struggle to regain on average the GDP levels of the communist era, with some countries like Russia barely managing to equal it, and others like Ukraine not being able to recover (including pre-war).

even if there were no jobs to be done. Leading to them creating unnecessary intermediary positions at every level

Again, not historically accurate. The soviet union didn't need to make up positions, because it ran under permanent labour shortage. When labour becomes a useful resource for society, it gets optimised and used up as much as any other, and allocated according to very calculated plans, which while imperfect, for the most part didn't create jobs out of a need to create employment. There was chronical labor shortage that reached close to 10% in the 70s (one in ten positions being open for lack of workers). This has to do with leftover mindset from the Stalin years of the soviet economy in which extensive investment in order to mobilise as much of the workforce as possible, massive investment in capital created enormous economic growth, which proved to stagnate as a model after the 70s for a variety of reasons, including literally running out of people to work all the jobs you created. If you want some numeric and nuanced analysis I highly recommend "Farm to Factory" by Robert C. Allen, great book as an overview of the history of the Soviet economy.

I think we view work with disdain because we live in capitalism and 1) working in capitalism sucks 2) not working in capitalism arguably sucks harder. People should have shorter workweeks doing things that help their communities and the society as a whole with their basic needs guaranteed, I'd love to work in such a society