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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 1 day ago

the topic of this thread is the genocide in Gaza

Correct.

Biden’s complicity in it

and the response to that from Democratic voters.

Not really. Or, I mean, I know you brought those things into it, but the main topic of the thread was the "uncommitted" voters and whether or not they made a mistake.

Then, you brought other arguments into it, including "Democrats have no principles", abortion, immigration, Lina Khan, and Black Mirror. I responded to the new arguments you brought up and you became unhappy, suddenly, that we weren't talking about Gaza anymore, and refused to respond to my response to what you said.

genocide denial isn’t just “I deny that genocide is happening”. it’s more pernicious than that. it can also take the form of aggressively changing the subject.

I responded directly about Biden and Trump vis-a-vis genocide, when we were talking about genocide. Trump is infinitely worse, vis-a-vis genocide. Someone who cares about genocide and doesn't want to change the subject should be panicked about the prospect of Trump winning, even if the alternative is a Democrat. That is precisely the topic of this comments thread, before you changed the subject, aggressively, to "Democrats."

I do generally agree with your "perniciousness" argument. In particular, something like saying "Trump’s illegal calls for ethnic cleansing are horrific, but" should be a screaming red flag that the sentence needs to stop before the "but" comes in. Or maybe be finished up with "so it would obviously be a crisis if he gained power, so we should stop that."