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I hope we respond by putting tariffs on American pickups. Democratic nations need to cut the US out of the global economy entirely until they learn how to act right.

Apologies if there's any weirdness in this post, it's my first one.

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[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

ummmmm, there's a reason people, companies, and nations want to trade with the united states, it's because they have the largest economy, with the richest per capital spending power of any place in the world, with 342 million people. no one is "cutting the us out of the global economy" not even countries that trump is about to punish with economy wrecking tariffs, he'll just tariff you more. this sounds like a good plan, until you run the numbers, and "Cutting the US our of the global economy" reduces every nations ability to trade by 20% - 50%, and that my friends, leads to hundreds of millions of people into destitution and poverty on a scale no one has ever seen before. I mean with one fell swoop Trump did away with USAID and it's $40 billion dollar foreign aid budget, which in turn cut off tens/hundreds of millions of real live human beings, all across the world, from foreign aid consisting of life sustaining food, clean water, & medication, the death toll will be astronomical. soverign nations like saying they can do without the us, but if you watch closely people are going to start dying from just $40 billion being taken away. that's a fraction or a fraction of a fraction of the trade monies exchanged with the us.

[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The US is a failed state. We're going to have to learn to live without it sooner or later. The only reason it has so much influence is because we all made it the centre of the global economy. That's what needs to change.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ok, but realize what that's going to cost in the near term, and it's going to be more painful than any war you've ever fought, any fire you've ever put out, and any economic downturn your country has ever experienced, up front, and i don't believe most modern economies want to shoot themselves in the head quite yet, they'll have to endure humilating trade concessions which will shrink their economies gradually, but they're not gonna want to pull that rip cord just because they're a bit miffed

[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I believe it's all coming down. Don't want it, not looking forward to it, but I think our society is definitely in decline.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah. Sadly, we may not have a choice in the matter.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

same. welcome to the party, pal

Yippee ki yay motherfucker! 😉

[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Uh, look at how quickly the EU began giving Russia the finger after decades of energy dependence. The US is mighty, but everybody and everything is replaceable in 2025

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

yes, because it had the united states to fall back on, and russia only controlled 3% of their trade centered almost solely in energy and luxury goods

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

"Cutting the US our of the global economy" reduces every nations ability to trade by 20% - 50%

Yes, while cutting US ability to trade by 100%. Who's the most impacted then?

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago

and it's all done so the richest in the US can swoop in and buy up the crumbs that are left of US households & the citizens become beholden to them...it's all a financial coup and it's going very well so far.