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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37235684
Obviously reporting transphobic comments to a transphobic mod isn't going to result in any action, so I'm wondering if the admins are going to do anything about it?
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There aren't enough trans people to have our own league. Also separate but equal is not an ethical solution.
No, they are not at an advantage https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/rcna148437
You're right, that is an unrealistic solution. I've never been interested in sports, so I admit I didn't really put much thought into that. I guess, in my mind, trans people in sports is one of the less dire issues we face today. But, I should acknowledge that there are trans people whose life revolves around sports, and I appreciate you framing it the way it is: separate but 'equal.' That really adds a stark perspective to it that I admittedly had not considered.
Thank you so much for linking research, I'll read that right now.
EDIT: I didn't read the article, I clicked their link to the study and read the abstract and data. So, if I'm reading the data correctly, the only factor measured where trans athletes have an advantage is the slightly higher grip strength of trans women? Just making sure I'm interpreting that correctly. Thank you so much for sending that my way.
It's worth keeping in mind that the issue was entirely manufactured so that they could turn the public against trans people.
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/opinion-the-trans-sports-attacks
That's good to know, thank you for this!
What a great fucking read. Really helped open my eyes to how this sports issue is used to dehumanize us. I really appreciated how she laid out the logical next steps after a trans sports ban, and how it's inevitably leveraged to take away more and more of our rights. I'll definitely be following her articles to keep myself informed.
Side Note: Is that journalist Zoey Zephyr's wife? I feel like I recognize her face.
Yep, you're absolutely right!
But isn't this how sport already is? Do you think gender restrictions should be removed from sport altogether?
I don't think a trans-only league makes any sense, but I'm just curious about your stance.
Are black people forced to play in their own separate league? Why not?
No they aren't, but there is a separate women's league for most sports. So again, I'm wondering if you find that unethical?
What's your goal here
? I was confused by your statement "separate but equal is not ethical" because it's what we already do in sports, so I wanted to ask about it. I already stated that I don't think a separate league for trans people is a good idea, if that's why you are refusing to answer me.
Why is it unethical to separate sports leagues by race
Because segregation is historically driven by racist motivations such as attempting to prevent different races from interacting.
Why is it ethical to separate sports leagues by gender?
You tell me
I believe it is self evident, while you are the one claiming that separate but equal is not ethical, which is in contradiction to this.
What is self evident
That separating leagues by gender is ethical
When I say separate but equal is unethical I am referring to trans people being treated as separate from their gender, which they are not
Ah! This entire time I thought it meant separate but equal leagues in sport being unethical.
That makes much more sense now
It is very difficult in these times to tell when someone is asking questions in good faith. I'm glad we were able to clear things up.
Yes thanks for sticking with me