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[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 103 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

But did they keep a good ratio though?

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 85 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

1000% guarantee those mf's had their upload choked to 20kbps

[–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Nah they used a leeching client. No upload at all.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Gotta have some upload just for the protocol traffic tho.

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 7 hours ago

I would assume that the requests sent from the torrent client to download data are not factored into the Upload amount for the torrent. When they mean no upload, it would be that none of the data in the files they downloaded were shared with anyone else, making them a piece of shit leecher.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

In copyright protection terms the ratio shouldn't matter. They should pay for all the lost profits from pirating everything they've downloaded. Every time someone pirated it should be counted. And every time someone uses the AI trained on the data.

They can become the corporate Jesus of the interwebs, having paid for our sins.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Technically, copyright infringement is committed by the entity making and sending the copy, not the entity receiving it. Leeching could indeed remove liability.

I'm not sure if the courts have cared about that nuance when persecuting the 'small fish,' but I bet they would in this 'big fish' case.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If the receiving entity then ingests all that copyrighted material into its AI, and the AI sends it piece at a time to other receiving entities, that should be the AI infringing on everything it is copying to make its answers.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, yes it should. But that's a different act than the one being discussed here.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 0 points 3 hours ago

I agree. Still doesn't hurt to bring it up on appropriate tangents.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 8 hours ago

Asking the real questions.