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Posted by /u/Theory_of_Time

Our democracy is at immediate risk, and history is repeating itself. What Donald Trump and Elon Musk are doing mirrors the actions of past authoritarian regimes. It took just 53 days for Hitler to dismantle Germany’s democracy. 53 days. He used executive orders, erased marginalized groups, and silenced opposition—while too many stood by and did nothing.

Trump’s executive order erases transgender and intersex people from legal recognition—just like Hitler erased Jewish and trans people from legal records before persecution began.

Elon Musk now has access to the U.S. Treasury’s financial system—just like Putin’s oligarchs seized control of Russia’s wealth to consolidate power.

Trump is erasing vital medical information from our government and silencing opposition—just like Hitler suppressed science and banned opposing views.

Trump is dismantling government agencies, firing oversight officials, and gutting institutions like USAID and the Department of Education—just like Hitler replaced government officials with loyalists to eliminate accountability.

We are on day 15, and we are running out of time. We have to make change, or our democracy will be gone.

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[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Why do you say anarchism doesn't work?

i don't think there's ever been an experiment with controlled variables that shows that, and when you control for as many variables as possible, it shows it is plausible

[–] artificialfish@programming.dev 15 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Because an organized state will always overpower it. And history is a story of power.

I always say, show me the theory that allows anarchists to maintain a complex network of nuclear armament. You can't "anarchically control" the nukes.

People just never really come to grips with the era we actually live in. We live in an era where a spaceship could throw an asteroid at the earth, or where a guy in a garage with an axe to grind could release an extinction level bioweapon, or where a computer program made by a skilled hacker could decimate power grids and kill millions. We are terraforming the earth. We are in a society that is much closer to godhood than to primitive man.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think you fully understand what anarchism is. Lack of hierarchy does not mean no organizational framework. It means there are no hierarchies.

Nukes have no purpose existing to begin with. The best thing to do with them would be to dismantle them and use their resources for other things. I don't know why you have immediately decided to imagine an anarchist freed territory as requiring nuclear armaments. Or why you think the litmus test of whether a political ideology is valid or not depends on the answer to "can it allow for nuclear holocaust at the push of a button".

You seemingly have imagined that an anarchist revolution would intend to preserve the functioning of modern geopolitical superpowers. Needless to say, no. Anarchism in practical implantation results in societies that look dramatically different (including extent anarchist free territories). Ones that don't partake in overproduction and vast environmental destruction. Ones that are concerned principally with the well-being of the people who live within them.

[–] artificialfish@programming.dev 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Your second paragraph just proves you don’t understand the nature of power. Why did Russia Cuba and NK need nukes? Because people without nukes are weak to their enemies. So until the anarchist territory is global, it needs to participate in global geopolitics, in which nukes are actually one of your primary bargaining chips.

Otherwise you’re just a piece of land with no government, and most historical invasions take place when land becomes an easy conquest. Because land is materially useful.

The communists had to be militarily STRONG to survive and continue the revolution. And that’s why they tended to kill their anarchist neighbors instead of the other way around. They did power better.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

All of those doom scenarios are already possible and have nothing to do with anarchism

[–] artificialfish@programming.dev 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

They are already possible so we have massive networks of laws and security to try and detect and stop them. That security imposes its will by force onto the perpetuator. Thats not anarchism

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Good thing we have laws and police! Man imagine if Ted Kaczinsky had heard about laws! Or if Luigi Mangione knew about the infrastructure and power of the state!

Lone actors are going to do what they want regardless of the law. The law doesn't prevent you from punching an asshole in the mouth. You prevent you from doing so.

Here's a thought experiment for you. Are there unjust laws?

[–] artificialfish@programming.dev 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

lol what about all the lone actors who didn’t succeed. Worldwide. Don’t just cherry pick the losses. And those guys did not bioweapon the earth.

Sure laws can be bad /c/im14andthisisdeep. Now you do it! Can laws be good?

What you’re advocating for is not trying, because freedom is more important than practical safety.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

No you're not trying. You're leaving everything up to the state. Which requires you to do nothing to maintain the status quo.

The purpose of the law is to protect property not you and not your rights. That's pretty evident in Trump's presidency.

[–] artificialfish@programming.dev 1 points 9 hours ago

I mean that's your model. As far as it's absolute, it's wrong. There are good laws that don't protect mere property: murder, rape, assault, etc. And we don't want vigilante justice dealing with these things. Basically I can admit laws can be unjust, but you can't admit laws can be just. In such a case, you need to meet your burden of proof.