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Army Capt. Rebecca M. Lobach, a highly accomplished pilot and top 20% ROTC cadet, was among 67 killed when her Black Hawk helicopter collided with an American Airlines jet near Washington, D.C.

Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth blamed "DEI" for the crash despite no official cause being determined.

Lobach had 450+ flight hours and numerous military honors.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 223 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

This must be the first president in the history of this country to display this much callousness towards innocent victims of a terrible accident and get away with it.

[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 109 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That is what he was voted in to do. Be a bully to everyone the worst of us dislike.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We did not. Some did. Those that didn't need to stand up and be heard.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Your chance was at the polls. They knew he was a snake when they picked him up. Too late now.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Also the first (and second) republican president to shit on the military.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 51 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

And veterans
And disabled people
And women
...

I still can't fathom by which feat of mass idiocy a man who showed that much disrespect to that many sections of the population won the election...

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

beCAusE hE tEllS iT lIkE it iS

Basically his voter base hates everyone like he does.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The military is important to note because GOP is the “pro military” party.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That’s why they hate veterans. They are only pro military. Veterans don’t contribute to the war machine anymore. They have no purpose unless they use their veteran status to recruit fresh meat for the war machine

Trump just said the quiet part out loud. They never had respect for veterans. Republicans have always been screwing over veterans

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah but MAGA isn't the GOP. The old GOP, for all its faults, and however much I disagreed with it, was a respectable party with true values. MAGA is a crass personality cult that venerates ignorance, mediocrity, hatred and violence. Very much like... well, the NSDAP.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

MAGA sure seem like a direct continuation and very minor evolution of the character of GOP I’ve witnessed in my lifetime.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, around what like 2008 (?) there was a faction within the party known as The Tea Party, which was already starting in this direction. That’s where stuff like the “long form birth certificate” bullshit started, and mass shooting crisis actors, and various conspiracies and lies in the media. A lot of it was already there, but this was bringing it out more into the open.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To me, it seems like it was steady refinement from at least Nixon all the way to today. Jair always being as shitty as they can get away with.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Well sure. If we go back far enough, we can just blame Washington. But I don’t think these TikTok zoomers voting Trump because “egg prices” have any idea who Nixon was or what he was about. If you told Nixon that was going to be a voting block for him, he would roll over in his grave, make a martini, break a Beatles album, curse heaven and earth, then roll over and die again.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago

And the first president to advocate a complete gun ban.

That didn't go away either. Fascist aren't too keen on personal weapon ownership.

[–] chknbwl@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The next four years of American politics will be bankrolls of precedence for callousness and getting away with it. Please welcome Neo-America to the stage.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Stop talking as though this will go away in 4 years with an election. This is the US for the foreseeable future. No dictator has ever been removed from power through an election. You can't vote him away. The only thing that will change this is resistance, protest, and revolution.

[–] chknbwl@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I never said it was going to fade away? I'm well aware of the extreme state of US politics, as well as the realization that peaceful revolution is now impossible after this last US presidential election.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 2 days ago

Our Constitution was designed around the notion that we should be careful of a tyranny of the majority, one of democracy's biggest flaws.

Trump is showing us the Constitution is just a piece of paper.

If this was the only thing to talk about, for a few weeks (like in a normal presidency), it would be a 10% drop in approval rating at least.

But we've got the DOD, HHS, CDC, OPM, Treasury, and DOJ all being dismantled, looted, or turning into autocratic institutions.

The magic of Trump's flooding the zone is that there is a finite amount of attention we have and that a week or two is all it takes to lose urgency on any issue. Not only is it impossible for us to respond to this because of all the other things, this distraction helps make it similarly impossible to respond to the rest.

I held a slim hope this fascist creep would take long enough that opposition could be organized. Nope, Project 2025 absolutely thought this through.

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago

He gets away with everything.
Everything.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

I mean Reagan gave medals to the guys who shot down an Iranian passenger jet and eulogized the nun-raping Contras. But yeah, it's unusual for the president to display such callousness, they usually have the common sense to pretend to care, after making decisions that end the lives of hundreds of thousands to millions of children.