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    cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/24574658

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    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    Why would you root Lineage OS? You are putting a hole in your security.

    [–] exu@feditown.com 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I also do that because it lets me

    • limit charging with ACC
    • use microG as network location provider (microg installer revived)
    • fix SafetyNet
    • YouTube ReVanced
    • Make using other App stores easier (updating can happen automatically in more recent Android versions, but first installs still require confirmation outside the Play Store)
    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    MicroG doesn't require root

    Also Charging control is now part of Android 15

    Root can be a huge security risk. Be very careful and always stay updated with the latest security patches.

    [–] exu@feditown.com 8 points 3 days ago

    Yes, microG works without root, however to get it working as a network location provider you either need it installed as system app (for example LOS4microg) or patch android to allow non-system apps for providing network location.

    There's an official patch, also mentioned in the Install Guide and it's basically the reason for microg_installer and its revived fork existing.

    I could use LOS4microg, which does include the patch, but builds are run much less frequently (once a month instead of weekly) and I'd rather stick to original Lineage.

    Thanks for pointing out charging control, I wasn't aware of that new feature. One more reason to upgrade LOS my phone

    [–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

    Graphene os for security, lineage os is for debloated aosp experience, root is for things like wifite2 on smartphone, cheat engine like apps on smartphone, deep control of your smartphone and etc

    [–] 299792458ms@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    I did not give it much thought really, I just wanted my previously rooted phone with no google things. But mainly the SafetyNet thing.

    [–] jkYkM7a@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

    If you are either A) bootloader unlocked or B) using a custom ROM via an exploit, your system is freely open to modification by a physical attacker, regardless.

    [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    e.g. for better charging control, to allow f-droid to update apps automatically

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    You don't need root for any of those in Lineage OS 22. Android has a API that F-droid uses for updates and Android 15 introduces charging control.

    In all fairness you have more control with root but it also introduces a major security risk. With root an app can completely bypass all security controls. If malware gets root you are basically hosed.

    [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

    Android has a API that F-droid uses for updates and Android 15

    ~~that's a cool thing~~ it always should have worked this way.

    at the same time many people don't have phones that have such a new OS available. people shouldn't buy a new phone just for this.

    and Android 15 introduces charging control

    on what level? my rom too has a built-in setting to stop charging at 90%, but thats it, it's a static thing. with root I can set a more suitable upper limit, the level at which charging should start again, charging speed limit, and idle mode that does not charge the battery but switches the power source from battery to charger. and all of this can be set by a schedule, so that it's fine to have it slowly charge at night from any starting level, but at the day it just idle charges.

    can you do any of this on 15?

    the funniest part is that this has been a feature of phones for a decade or more, they just didn't let the user configure it.

    In all fairness you have more control with root but it also introduces a major security risk

    that's true, if you are being used to impulse accepting any permission prompt

    With root an app can completely bypass all security controls

    apps that you have approved

    If malware gets root you are basically hosed

    that's just how normal computers work. There's a tradeoff, sure, just like you can fall and die if you leave the house.