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Donald Trump has suggested large numbers of Palestinians should leave Gaza to “just clean out” the whole strip, after ordering the US military to restart shipments of 2,000lb bombs to Israel.

The US president said he wanted Gaza residents to move to neighbouring nations, and that they could be displaced “temporarily or could be long-term”, after a phone call with Jordan’s King Abdullah on Saturday.

“I said to him: I’d love you to take on more because I’m looking at the whole Gaza Strip right now and it’s a mess, it’s a real mess. I’d like him to take people,” Trump said, when asked about the call.

He also suggested Egypt as a destination for Gaza residents, and said he would raise the issue with President Abdel Fatah al-Sisi on Sunday.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 219 points 3 days ago (63 children)

Reeeeeeeeeally hard to stop my self from screaming “I fucking told you so” to all the idiots who insisted Trump would be better for the situation right now

This is literally the exact thing I’ve been trying to point out for months

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (33 children)

Nobody I know thought Trump would be better for Gaza. Just that Genocide is the worst situation and it was already being ignored.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago (3 children)

But now we get more death! Immigrants, trans people, FEMA, it’s like a Gatcha game of who else gets to suffer. We really taught them a lesson

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The dem leadership knew the whole time exactly how to win the election but werent willing to pay the price in thwarting AIPAC to secure that win. All they had to do was recognize the genocide a few days before the election and follow existing laws on it, and acknowledge that many Americans are struggling. They chose to roll the dice instead.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I pointed this out to a dem apologist on bluesky and their response was that ending the genocide on its own wouldn't have won the election.

Motherfucker, what?! Quite apart from the fact that ending a genocide shouldn't be evaluated on how likely it is to win an election, it is the right thing to do and it would have helped.

But the dems decided that continuing the genocide was more important than improving their chances of beating Trump. Assuming they believe what we were told that Trump would be worse at the genocide, that means the dems decided to continue the genocide and also risk worse genocide. So they just chose genocide.

And now people are still trying to get up on their high horses about this shit.

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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

“I did not pull the lever in the trolly problem and it was the dems fault”

[–] hark@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)

If you're willing to let one group be subject to genocide, then all groups are eligible. You know how it goes, "first they came for[...]"

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Maybe geopolitics is more complicated than the anti-Kamala protest voters have been lead to believe...

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[–] hark@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Trump is worse for saying the quiet part out loud, but the actions by all administrations since the establishment of israel show that this plan by israel is being followed regardless of what the president says out loud.

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[–] small44@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-palestinians-concept-paper-1.7015576

The plan was always their. They would get away with it even if it was biden or harris would won

[–] Glasgow@lemmy.ml 48 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It was Israel’s plan yes, not official us policy like now.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (18 children)

What would you make think biden or harris would have blocked such a plan?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Maybe the fact that the Biden administration withheld 2000 lbs bombs from Israel and Biden repeatedly cussed Netanyahu out over the phone? Maybe because the genociders backed the Trump presidency fiercely?

Btw those held weapons shipments were happily continued by Trump earlier.

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean the real question is, yes, genocide doesn't stop either way. But which option lends itself to less oppression of minorities in the US itself? I mean if both sides genocide, but one genocidal side doesn't want to fuck over trans people, but wouldn't you choose the side that doesn't fuck over trans people?

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[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

They can still argue that situation is better now but it depends upon a very specific meaning of “better” that doesn’t consider the Palestinian people’s welfare at all.

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