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EU absolutely is a country.

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[–] Tehdastehdas@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Yes. Current oligarch-owned USA considers Europe an enemy because of its liberal and leftist values. Look how they've already turned us, famously allergic to fascism, towards fascism once again.

We can't rely on enemy services in a cold war. We can't review closed-source code to be free from back doors for spying and sabotage, or black-box feed shaping algorithms to not have bias and shadow-censorship for mass manipulation.

EU must ban all US-made smart products for its own safety. All closed-source software and electronics that can be used for strategic manipulation and sabotage – Google, Apple, Amazon, all of it.

They are in every European citizen's pockets, desktops, and server rooms. They know way too much about us, and have every opportunity to manipulate us:

  • Make the most intelligent people never stumble upon important information on social media.
  • Make the most compatible people never meet each other on dating sites.
  • Make the most valuable people never find career-making jobs on work-centered social media.
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Black box recommendation algorithms in the control of one country enables the slow, strategic destruction of Europe by billions of unnoticeable manipulations. CIA has done this shit before, and now it's being given more power than ever to do so.

China banned that shit, and China has been successful partly for its detachment from US far-right propaganda. They have also made subtle mass-manipulation difficult by making their own services.

We have functional, clunky open-source software that could easily be fitted for any purpose with the money we waste propping up foreign monopolies sabotaging us. Europe has taken a huge risk. I suspect bribery.

[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 3 days ago

I agree with everything you said except this bit:

China banned that shit, and China has been successful partly for its detachment from US far-right propaganda.

China loves US far right propaganda, the amount of Chinese people reeeeing about DEI or wokeism or the LGBTs, and fellating the South African Nazi who inherited wealth from an apartheid labour emerald mine and (for some reason, still) J. Lopsterson is kind boggling.

The common view in China is that the US is too progressive and needs to clamp down on minority rights and immigration... The mind boggles.

But yes, also fully fuck US social media and tech monopolies.

But the EU had taken risks so far as we think when push comes to shove we'll be on the same side as the US, ignoring that the US still seems to think realpolitik is an appropriate course of action. Never trust a realpoliker to have your back.

[–] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes. I've already started replacing everything I can with Europe- or Japan- or Korea-made stuff. We have to learn to be self-sufficient and vigilant. Latest was my decision to ditch stability.ai, which is anyway the most horrendous collection of dark patterns I've ever seen, with dezgo.com , which is French and as transparent as can be.