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"I will never suggest Lemmy to people" - 196 users on the Fediverse's harassment of women (lemmy.nz)

submitted 2 days ago by dragonfucker@lemmy.nz to c/fediverselore@lemmy.ca

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https://lemmy.nz/post/18610200/13255360

This user describes how most of the women-centered communities on Lemmy were shut down due to harassment of their members.

Another user adds "We need a safe space, but most of the women I know on here don’t have the time or energy to moderate it. And there’s so few of us, it feels like it’s not worth the effort anyway."

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[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I think it's much better then literally anywhere else on the internet. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but unfortunately everywhere else is worse. As such, I'm not sure whaz the solution is for Lemmy in particular.

Everywhere where it seems "better" is just moderation making it seem like that.

[–] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There’s many internet spaces that are better than lemmy regarding misogyny, any platform that does not have a strong majority of cis men is probably better than lemmy.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Which platform exactly is that :D

[–] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

Most social media? Instagram, youtube, tumblr, bluesky. And I bet there’s tons of forums by and for women.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So you're saying the moderators on Lemmy aren't making the space seem safe for women?

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I haven't seen any comments not removed by moderators. Unfortunately there's a time discrepancy between comment made and action taken.

If this time discrepancy didn't exist, I think we'd be perfectly fine.

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't think there is a way to have real time moderation without having bs like pre-approval of messages or AI snake oil. Which I am strongly against.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 23 hours ago

I personally think pre-approval makes sense for certain communities with an additional option to whitelist trusted users

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Something like automod might work, but then you're just playing the linguistic cat and mouse game with the people who want to be shitty and are willing to test boundaries.

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Yes. It does not work without severely limiting what people are allowed to say. I do believe anonymous communities don't work without moderation, but I also believe blanket censorship is bad.

I have no good answer :(