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I'm not in the US, but it seems to me that the Republicans keep breaking norms and procedures, including politicising impeachment and ignoring illegal, immoral and plain bad conduct.

They also seem to be fine with not applying the same standard across the isle.

On the other hand, either Democrats follow new precedent, with even more devolving, or they keep the old decorum and get their asses kicked by Republican foul play.

What ways out of this spiral are there?

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[–] Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 day ago (4 children)

As a non-American, it's always looked to me like the Republicans manage to get their shit done whether they're in charge or not and the Democrats are just there to assure everyone they have a choice in voting and not much else.

The whole thing to me looks like a game of good cop / bad cop. Bad cop comes along beats the shit out you, and then good cop comes along to give you a cup of weak shit coffee as a consolation for your black eye and says something unconvincing about being unhappy with bad cop's behaviour, before letting bad cop back in to beat the shit out of you some more.

And for every cycle of that, bad cop achieves his goals while good cop just acts as a glorified tea lady that tries to make sure you don't have any hard feelings about bad cop.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

it’s always looked to me like the Republicans manage to get their shit done

This is at least partly propaganda but for sure they succeed in misleading and confusing

The shit republicans get done tends to be

  • destroying is easier than building
  • misleading is easier than actually doing
  • “flood the zone with shit and see what sticks”
  • just claim success enough times that people believe it
[–] Disaster@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Find me a philosophy or religious perspective that is unambiguous about brute force.

It's effective as long as one doesn't consider the consequences, but the reality of nearly every situation is such that there's always a better way. Did the US need to nuke two Japanese cities and every inhabitant during WW2? Or were they just too tired, scared of a war of attrition and with the technological option available, they took the easier path?

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Mouseland may have been written about Canada but it also applies to the USA.

[–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Republicans getting "shit done"? What a schizo take, unless you mean just generally fucking shit up.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Destroying shit is what they said they’d do. They did it. Therefore they got their shit done.

The problem is that it’s far easier to destroy than build. They suck at building anything. They can’t even build walls. Governing is building. They can’t govern. So they mash the easy button and destroy instead.

[–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"Destroying shit is what we're going to do" is what the libs hear/see, the average trump voter genuinely thinks he's actually going to make things better/fulfill his promises.

Libs see the actions for what they are. Farces. Pointless. Things that have no bearing in making anyone’s situation better - unless by “better” it means pissing off the libs. BS like changing the Gulf’s name. Removing sign language from government sites. The only meaningful actions trump takes are the ones to enrich himself and his cronies, remove oversight, or remove challenges to their narrative.

[–] Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As in "getting their shit done."

[–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Most of what the clowns promise never gets done. But I agree that their grift is accomplished wonderfully.