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"I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall

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[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks for the strawman, I see now you're arguing in bad faith (or are one of those Americans hyper focused on guns)

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, look, an ad hominem. Cool.

Firearms are not, themselves, the problem, despite however much people want to treat them as though they are. Likewise, in the UK, kitchen knives and scissors are not the problem, although the gov't treats them as though they are.

Guns, knives, sticks, cars, and yes, even explosives, are tools. If you eliminate the causes that turn people to violence, you eliminate the use of the tools to commit violent acts. But no one is willing to discuss violence as a result of things like economic warfare or systemic racism; they insist that violence exists because the tools used in violent acts exist.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The discussion was never about the guns, dumdum (this, btw, is an ad hominem)

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This is like saying guns don’t kill people

This you?

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 points 54 minutes ago

Still missing the point.

The criticism was on your "words don't kill people" part.

Neither guns nor words spawn out of nothing.