I don't think i need to have done any of those things to make assertions about China. Saying that China doesn't engage in propaganda spreading and censorship is peak naivety. You know you can be a communist while also criticizing its model example right?

Hell, I've conversed with some of the most ardent communists on here, and even they concede China engages in censorship and propaganda spreading

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Saying that they do propaganda and censorship as like a "you can't trust them" justification is ridiculous though. Literally all states do those things, and non-state solutions don't work, as has been repeatedly demonstrated.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world -2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If that's your stance, then i can also say the same thing about the US:

"Saying the US does propaganda and censorship as like a 'you can't trust them' justification is ridiculous though".

That's your argument now used to support my stance.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I never made that argument though. Are you here to shadowbox or talk?

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world -4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

You never outlined why you think the US is untrustworthy. I am however saying that regardless of the facts, China is just as untrustworthy if not more so.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 hours ago

I am however saying that regardless of the facts

That's nice, have a good day!

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Your stance seems to be based only on vibes so 🤷