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[–] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Their access to news is controlled and for some topics all available news is what we'd call propaganda. Particularly anything about Japan or the Taiwan issue. Most people I know there realize this to an extent but without any other information do still believe the core idea even if skeptical of details.

But at the same time I'd argue there's no such thing as a population that's not propagandized. In the US the big news corporations only will present views favorable to their profitability and continued growth. Sure they disagree with eachother, but it's still always a pro-business view. State news from Russia is (I'd argue rightly) not available on many US platforms to discourage it's influence for example.

[–] 000999@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

Ofc there is no such thing as an un-propagandized country. There are lobbyists and think tanks everywhere

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The US does NOT have a free press and is not at all interested in freedom and free speech. Notice that there are no socialists or leftists of any kind on any news channel or in political leadership positions.

[–] kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

This is just untrue. There is plenty of legal press in the US of any persuasion, from anarchist to fascist.

The major US news outlets are in bed with capitalists because that's where the money is, but there are lots of smaller outlets with other views. In China all news outlets kowtow to the government because anything else is illegal.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

In China all news outlets kowtow to the government because anything else is illegal.

This is what our media tell us about their media. In every country the media kowtow to the government to some extent, but I’m not sure to exactly what extent they actually do in China, and I’m not going to take our media’s word for what that extent is.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Mostly agree with this take. I just wanted to add some nuance. I was talking to a friend about Gaza/Israel-protests in my country and said that the media doesn’t show everything. He then told a story about the protests that was supposedly not covered in the media. However, I had literally just read about that story in my newspaper.

Point is, there is some freedom of press (at least in my country) and the press is fairly pluralistic. However, to really find out what’s going on you need to read i.) several sources, and ii.) continue to focus on events after journalists took the effort to dig down. That’s a big ask for many people. And the stories that come out first tend to be most biased.