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[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Johnny admits to knowing that taking the bet was a sin and commits it anyway. Johnny gets the golden fiddle, but the devil gets his soul in the end anyway. What's 60 more years to an eternal being? The song can still be a cautionary tale you just need to finish it.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Johnny admits to knowing that taking the bet was a sin and commits it anyway.

No, he admits that it might be a sin.

The boy said, "My name's Johnny and it might be a sin
But I'm gon' take your bet, you're gonna regret, I'm the best there's ever been"

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

That means he's acknowledging its a sin but he will do it anyways. You are thinking it says it might be a sin or might not, but thats not how the sentence goes.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I definitely read it as an acknowledgement of a risk rather than an admission of wrong.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Either way he's saying it doesnt make a difference, if it was a sin or not he'd still do it.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 11 hours ago

There's a big difference between saying "I understand this is a sin, but I'm doing it anyway" versus "I think this might be a sin, but I'm doing it anyway."

[–] ochi_chernye@startrek.website 6 points 15 hours ago

The sentence can be interpreted either way.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Point kinda holds, though. Ignoring the long-term consequences for short-term gain seems to also feature heavily in America.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The county was founded by generations of people who came here with little thought to long term consequences, so it tracks

[–] refalo@programming.dev 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

ah yes, that short term Constitution that never held up /s

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

That was the second one. The first one was the Articles of Confederation. Lasted 8 years.

Hell, even the constitution is like a handful of good ideas, some terrible ones, and a README about how to make a pull request to add more features.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 day ago

Yep only in America

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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Eh? The wager was Johnny either gets the fiddle or loses his soul, why would he go to hell anyway?

No human is without sin, after all.

[–] CoCo_Goldstein@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Exactly. Johnny wins the contest, so he gets the fiddle. If he had lost, he would have forfeited his soul.

[–] Earflap@reddthat.com -4 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Win or lose, taking the bet at all is a sin, and Johnny aknowleges this in the song. Plenty of protestants (the target audience) see this as reason enough to go to hell.

Now you could argue about forgiveness or confession or whatever the fuck but the stage has been set for Johnny to go to hell even though he won.

"Here's your fiddle. See you in 80 years".

I think its a cautionary tale about using evil even when you think you're good and right. The devil doesnt play fair, and always wins.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 13 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It's not a protestant belief that a single sin makes you irredeemable and sends you to hell.

[–] CoCo_Goldstein@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

Nor a Catholic belief...

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They didnt say that. Do we still call these strawmen?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 15 hours ago

Yes they did.

Win or lose, taking the bet at all is a sin, and Johnny aknowleges this in the song. Plenty of protestants (the target audience) see this as reason enough to go to hell.

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"Here's your fiddle. See you in 80 years".

[–] AugustWest@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

Well, Daniels wrote a sequel in which the devil comes back to try again. That pretty much negates this theory.

Also, Daniels wrote it in the middle of a recording session for the sole reason that he realized they forgot to write a fiddle song for the album they were recording. So I wouldn’t ascribe too much intention to anything.