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[–] LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Honestly, The government isn't protecting our data anyways so it really doesn't matter. Amazon has had yet another massive breach but no worries the government is sitting idly by. Not a single action will be taken even though this happens all the time. No penalty means no reason to change.

[–] mxcory@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, if the government really cared, they would be pushing privacy laws instead of trying to ban a platform.

Yeah...but it's much easier to get elected with "ChInA bAd!”

Then "We need a nuanced approach to privacy and social media."

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

that platform is being banned because there are very limited privacy laws and the platform doesn't even comply with those. all theyhad to do is start a US front company with a data center, host all collected user data there and deny all data center access to the foreign parent company.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

no, they allowed the chinese part of the company full access to all US data and they were found out

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only articles I saw were for headcount data. Literally just confirming the number of users. They embarked on an entire project for it and then the goal posts were taken off the field.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

do you not have google or bing in china? just search for "tiktok ban reason" and you'll find articles like this: https://www.nytimes.com/article/tiktok-ban.html

Lawmakers and regulators in the West have increasingly expressed concern that TikTok and its parent company, ByteDance, may put sensitive user data, like location information, into the hands of the Chinese government. They have pointed to laws that allow the Chinese government to secretly demand data from Chinese companies and citizens for intelligence-gathering operations.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah and I remember when Bush expressed concern there would be mushroom cloud over New York city. Lawmakers saying vague shit isn't evidence. Hell politicians saying specific shit isn't evidence without the evidence. We just spent a year debunking half the shit Biden said about the Gaza war because he insisted on straight up repeating whatever lame excuse the war criminals thought up.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

dood. they were only vague in their speeches, then the US congess made a very detailed, specific law mid last year. then tiktok ignored some details of it and got a chance to correct it, but didn't.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That law forced a fire sale of TikTok by name. I wouldn't follow it either, it's blatantly unconstitutional. The Constitution very clearly, in plain English, bans the practice of punishing specific people and organizations via legislation instead of the justice system.

This is also like citing the laws against Marijuana when asked for evidence the laws against Marijuana are necessary. Entirely circular. There's still no evidence there.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

tiktok could have just started a US based company and sell US operations to them for $1. and of course they knew that.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 54 minutes ago

That is not true. That would still be either a subsidiary or a sell off. In the first case it doesn't satisfy the law. In the second case it's a very extreme fire sale, more extreme than was actually expected.

[–] vulture_god@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 day ago

Is this the Amazon breach you're talking about?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/larsdaniel/2024/11/11/amazon-confirms-data-breach-exposed-2800000-lines-of-employee-data/

I hadn't heard of it, and I usually follow this stuff pretty closely. FWIW, in this case, it appears that the data was employee data from a third party vendor's systems:

The exposed Amazon dataset includes employee work contact information, email addresses, desk phone numbers, and building locations. While Amazon spokesperson Adam Montgomery confirmed the breach, he emphasized in a statement to TechCrunch that core Amazon and Amazon Web Services, or AWS, systems remained secure.

People misconfigure AWS resources all the time, so it is definitely true that data stored by Amazon leaks out from time to time, although they don't have much culpability in these cases.

The language in the law has nothing to do with data. It's about foreign nations controlling media narratives.