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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The platform isn’t the megaphone. That’s the algorithm.

If you’re wanting their access to platforms limited, I’d like the know where you draw the line. Are they allowed to text hate speech to each other? Publish their own email or print newsletters? Should we ban them from access to printers (or printing press while we’re at it)? Should they be allowed to have hateful conversations with large groups of each other?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's up to the owner of the megaphone.

If the megaphone owner doesn't want you to use it, create your own.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

And there’s the expected bootlicking. You went from complaining about who gets access to the megaphone, to openly praising government censorship coordination.

Maybe if you want more censorship so bad, you should take your own advice and start your own platform.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Sorry, I was busy gagging on a boot or I would've responded sooner.

The rise of fascism across the United States is partially because they've been allowed to coordinate, and are public and loud with their normalization of hate.

Free speech absolutionists quickly run up against the paradox of tolerance. And at that point you get to choose. Do you want the most tolerance society or do you want full freedom of speech?

If you think you want full freedom of speech, then you don't understand how people will abuse that to take it away from you anyway.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Barriers to entry and the first-mover advantage make that impossible.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Only if you have a profit motive. Otherwise Lemmy wouldn't work