Vegans being banned and comments being deleted from !vegan@lemmy.world for being fake vegans.
From my perspective, the comments were in no way insulting and just part of completely normal interaction. If this decision reflects the general opinion of the mod team, then from my perspective, the biggest vegan community on Lemmy wants to be an elitist cycle of hardcore vegans only, not allowing any slightly different opinion. Which would be very unfortunate.
PS: In contrast to the name of this community, I don't want to insult anyone here being a 'bastard'. I just want to post this somewhere on neutral ground. I would really appreciate an open discussion without bashing anyone.
PPS: Some instances or clients seem to compress the screenshots in a way they're unreadable. Find the full resolution here: https://imgur.com/a/8XdexTm
Linking the affected users and mods: @Cypher@lemmy.world @gaael@lemmy.world @gredo@lemmy.world @iiGxC@slrpnk.net @veganpizza69@lemmy.world @veganpizza69@lemmy.vg @jerkface@lemmy.ca @TheTechnician27@lemmy.world @Sunshine@lemmy.ca @Aqua@lemmy.vg
Nobody is forcing you to go into the spaces where they're "spamming propaganda". Nobody forces you to subscribe to those comms and nothing is preventing your from blocking them altogether. You still don't deserve a platform in those comms.
Well I didn't invite it and yet here it is in my feed. They didn't put it there for gentle outreach. It's all posts by [thing]lover@[thing].org, in the [thing]ism@[thing].org community, to exclusively talk about [thing] by promoting exactly one opinion about [thing]. Spam spam spam spam and absolutely no eggs.
If you're going to /all, you're going to see posts in all comms. Still is not a permissions or invite to a platform in every comm without respecting their rules. You're being deliberately obtuse.
Maybe if everyone who wanders into a public-facing hot-take factory goes away scorned, that place is not compatible with being public-facing.
Surely the central point of this community is acknowledging that moderators can fuck up. Sometimes, having a very public forum in the first place is fucking up. The freedom-of-association to say 'well they're allowed to set the rules' doesn't fix how some rules will cause problems. Some rules are a misery engine. For freshly-slapped users, for burned-out moderators, or for everyone involved.
If your community federates all over the place, you're going to get users of all stripes. They didn't sneak in. You did in fact invite everyone. That's not carte blanche for all behavior - but if the behavior you exclude seems reasonable to nearly everyone else, you're gonna have a bad time. Maybe the space itself should opt out.
Maybe it shouldn't be on every individual user to identify the broken stairs.
You're seeing the rules of of necessity of running a comm on the internet and purposefully stretch what public means to argue nobody is allowed to curate their comms unless they're invisible. It's an inane take.
They can erase every last comment they get, if that's how they want to spend their time. They are free to create problems for themselves. But if they're burned-out as a result of mercilessly nitpicking even the folks who already agree with them, what on Earth could solve that, besides changing what they're doing?
If you create a list of rules that almost nobody expects or enjoys, your target audience is: almost nobody.
Niche communities can thrive in a wide-open space if they're easy to ignore. Weird fetishes, small countries, that kind of thing. The Cypriots are not "constantly brigaded." But that would change if every third post went "Cyprus is the only good country, everyone else sucks," and all disagreement was censored. However justified they feel in that message or that curation, the result is entirely predictable... and therefore, avoidable.