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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago (3 children)

This is on a different level than anything Snowden released.

Snowden released the fact that the major internet companies in the US literally have full time CIA staff and locked rooms with servers

Why is this on a different level? Is it because they're ASIANS?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That Snowden releasing the facts and it being brought up in courts, state congress, and federal congress as well as national news all revolved around it being illegal in the USA.

In the PRC it's only illegal to talk about it.

[–] bilb@lem.monster 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That Snowden releasing the facts and it being brought up in courts, state congress, and federal congress as well as national news all revolved around it being illegal in the USA.

Did it stop?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The specific program Snowden revealed supposedly ended in 2015, it collected information such as who was calling who and for how long. The 9th Circuit actually ruled it clearly illegal in 2020 and Snowden made a Tweet about it in a relatively good mood.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

This is the best news I've heard all day! Thanks.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Did you ignore the part where it's not illegal to talk about?

Yeah, the US is fucked, and there are some decent comparisons to China... But government control and oversight of business isn't one of them.

In fact, it's something that's severely lacking in the US. We have the complete opposite problem.

[–] CharmOffensive@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The long and short of it is even leftie Americans have internalised American exceptionalism, even if they aren't cognisant of it. And the right are, well... Racist and don't want to admit it.

[–] arararagi@ani.social 1 points 2 days ago

There's no left in the USA, only liberals.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

One government is actively committing genocide against subsets of their population I’d say it’s a pretty big fucking difference.

[–] holo@lemmy.wtf -5 points 3 days ago

Yeah the US genocide of black Americans needs the earn them some serious sanctions, but it's not relevant to this discussion.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Uht oh. Brace yourself for leftists. Prepare to be deemed genocide supporter nazi extraordinaire.