Vegans being banned and comments being deleted from !vegan@lemmy.world for being fake vegans.
From my perspective, the comments were in no way insulting and just part of completely normal interaction. If this decision reflects the general opinion of the mod team, then from my perspective, the biggest vegan community on Lemmy wants to be an elitist cycle of hardcore vegans only, not allowing any slightly different opinion. Which would be very unfortunate.
PS: In contrast to the name of this community, I don't want to insult anyone here being a 'bastard'. I just want to post this somewhere on neutral ground. I would really appreciate an open discussion without bashing anyone.
PPS: Some instances or clients seem to compress the screenshots in a way they're unreadable. Find the full resolution here: https://imgur.com/a/8XdexTm
Linking the affected users and mods: @Cypher@lemmy.world @gaael@lemmy.world @gredo@lemmy.world @iiGxC@slrpnk.net @veganpizza69@lemmy.world @veganpizza69@lemmy.vg @jerkface@lemmy.ca @TheTechnician27@lemmy.world @Sunshine@lemmy.ca @Aqua@lemmy.vg
no, it's an ethical philosophy. are kosher Jews boycotting lobster?
Yes. I was raised haredi and we boycotted all non kosher businesses by not buying from them and building out kosher alternatives. I don't think you know what the word boycott means.
that's not a boycott. it's just acting on your beliefs. there is no political goal in abstaining from nonkosher businesses.
Look, you can keep replying to me but don't fucking bother, you aren't right and I don't care what you think. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/boycott
veganism is an ethical philosophy, not a protest or a boycott.
interesting that you appeal to a lexicon instead of an encyclopedia
Isn't that akin to saying 'Muslims boycott pork'. A boycott implies you're doing it temporarily with the purpose of achieving some change in the boycotted party. If something is a core way of life to you, it's no longer a boycott, as there is nothing the boycotted party could do that would change your mind.
there is nothing in the definition of boycott to say it is temporary https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/boycott
Verb
boycott (third-person singular simple present boycotts, present participle boycotting, simple past and past participle boycotted) (transitive) To abstain, either as an individual or a group, from using, buying, or dealing with someone or some organization as an expression of protest.
Muslims are absolutely boycotting pork and everything that is haram. If they could they would make the whole world Muslim and prevent pork from being produced. This is a boycott.
Temporary, in the sense that if your goals were achieved, you would cease your boycott and return to your normal habits. In your case, these ARE your normal habits, hence there is no boycott to speak of.
That is a type of boycott but not the only meaning, I am done with this thread. I can't believe how fucking idiotic the people on lemmy are.
I agree with you that a boycott need not be temporary. But it does need to have the goal of ceasing the thing being boycotted or something related to that (e.g. secondary boycotts). Muslims and Jews don't think pork should be prohibited. They simply make a personal choice not to partake. That's not a boycott, any more than me not eating shellfish because I don't like the taste is a boycott.
Muslims absolutely think that haram things should be prohibited. Non kosher things are an affront to god. I'm blocking you now this is a waste of my time participating on this thread.
This is utter nonsense. Most religious people don't try to force their beliefs on others. Some do. We call them extremists.
At least it is apparent that you misname and follow veganism with as much zeal as any religious zealot. Feel free to block me, too ;-)
On a more earnest note, and with as much compassion as I can muster for a divisive extremist like you, your usage of the term "veganism" is a perversion of what a majority of people associate with it. I'd strongly recommend you to always prefix it with "political" or "extremist", or you're always bound to lose by default in any argument with anybody outside your bubble because you're pretty much talking a different language.