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[–] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 13 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Okedoke, well I just learned that I have no concrete grasp of political labels and need to do a LOT of research.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Extreme simplification:

Liberalism: supports capitalism. Current system + tweaks

Leftism: supports anticapitalism of some form, the two biggest umbrellas being Marxism/Communism and Anarchism

Marxism/Communism: supports collectivization, public ownership, and central planning (I have an introductory reading list if you want to learn more, or just read Principles of Communism)

Anarchism: supports full horizontalism and networks of communes

[–] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you for the reading list! I'll take a gander :)

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago
[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry to say I'm a self aware liberal capitalist. I must say I love to consoom (with some moderation)

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

You can still get goods and services in Socialism and Communism, I don't know what you mean by "consooming."

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world -5 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

New kids are trying to pretend that liberal means centrist instead of its actual meaning which is simply "not conservative"

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Liberalism is an ideology. Conservatism is a position on an ideologic binary. Uf you ascribe to Liberalism you are claiming belief in a very specific form of government and economy. If you claim to be a conservative you need to clarify what kind of conservative you are.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

That is not and have never been it's meaning. In fact, conservatives are a type of liberal.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

No they are not unless if they are conservative Liberals. A conservative Maoist and a conservative libertarian have very different ideologies despite being conservative within their own binaries. This is due to the fact that conservatism is a position in a binary and is not an ideology.

You can be a conservative and be illiberal.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 33 minutes ago (1 children)

Ok, sure. But the "conservatives" that they were referring to are liberals.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago

They state "In fact, conservatives are a type of liberal" and that's objectively incorrect.