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The erasure of Luigi Mangione (substack.evancarroll.com)
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by dexa_scantron@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world
 

Right now, on Stack Overflow, Luigi Magione’s account has been renamed. Despite having fruitfully contributed to the network he is stripped of his name and his account is now known as “user4616250”.

This appears to violate the creative commons license under which Stack Overflow content is posted.

When the author asked about this:

As of yet, Stack Exchange has not replied to the above post, but they did promptly and within hours gave me a year-long ban for merely raising the question. Of course, they did draft a letter which credited the action to other events that occurred weeks before where I merely upvoted contributions from Luigi and bountied a few of his questions.

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 60 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've read it is still well valued because people will keep asking questions there when LLM can't answer, so they remain a precious source of post LLM curated Q&A.

[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That might be true if any human could reasonably ask a question there now. Ask a question, and you are likely going to see it removed for a variety of reasons.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

To be honest, I had a bad experience a few years ago when I wanted to try contributing, and I never tried again. Yet, I think it's really hard to strike a balance of freedom and constrains for organically curated Q&A, so I try not to be too fast on judging them considering the service that they indubitably provided to millions of people.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Until it's just AIs answering questions asked by other AIs while human admins block human accounts..

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 11 points 1 day ago
[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, AI has become good enough at this point that you can provide it with a large blob of context material - such as API documentation, source code, etc. - and then have it come up with its own questions and answers about it to create a corpus of "synthetic data" to train on. And you can fine-tune the synthetic data to fit the format and style that you want, such as telling it not to be snarky or passive-aggressive or whatever.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It can reproduce an api. Can't solve actual problems. LLMs are completely incapable of innovation.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

That's not really true though.. They come up with brand new sentences all the time.

It can but you to closely midwife it into doing so.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And yet the synthetic training data works, and models trained on it continue scoring higher on the benchmarks than ones trained on raw Internet data. Claim what you want about it, the results speak louder.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is the peak, though. They require new data to get better but most of the available new data is adulterated with AI slop. Once they start eating themselves it's over.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You are speaking of "model collapse", I take it? That doesn't happen in the real world with properly generated and curated synthetic data. Model collapse has only been demonstrated in highly artificial circumstances where many generations of model were "bred" exclusively on the outputs of previous generations, without the sort of curation and blend of additional new data that real-world models are trained with.

There is no sign that we are at "the peak" of AI development yet.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

We're already seeing signs of incestuous data input causing damage. The more that AI takes over, the less capable it will be.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 23 hours ago

Are we, though? Newer models almost universally perform better than older ones, adjusted for scale. What signs are you seeing?

[–] knightly@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The results aren't worth the expense. So-called "AI" is the biggest bubble since the great recession.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah, I'm still giving that one to the blockchain. LLMs are going to be useful for a while, but Ethereum still hasn't figured out a real use, and they're the only ones that haven't given up and moved fully into coin gambling.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Blockchain currencies aren't a bubble, they're a scam.