Mate why are you talking like you're giving a presidential campaign speech? And what equality and freedom are you bloody talking about? In america? Equality and freedom? Are you having a fucking laugh?

Genuinely taking the piss. I'm going to defer to my man Albert Einstein:

"I came to America because of the great, great freedom which I heard existed in this country. I made a mistake in selecting America as a land of freedom, a mistake I cannot repair in the balance of my life." December, 1947

[–] SamboT@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have some degree of equality and freedom to maintain, even if it's not utopian. I'm not sure what preferable alternative exists to vigilance.

You are continuing to attack me because I talk differently than you? I am trying to be diplomatic. This is me.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People failing to buy into your delusional nationalism is not an "attack". You don't get to demand that people agree with delusional nationalism and then claim you're under attack when they scoff at them. The very heart of every single one of your responses is the flag waving nationalist bollocks mate, and it's deeply deeply embarrassing behaviour that completely lacks self awareness.

[–] SamboT@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm seeing the opposite ideology as destructive though. Working with each other and the system to affect change is surely better than entrenching and dividing? You are saying it's bad to believe we can make the world a better place? What is more effective than believing that your country can do better? Shouldn't we be talking to each other instead of downvoting and blocking each other?

I don't understand much about what you want because you aren't talking about it. You just insult me.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The working class can not work with the bourgeoisie. The two have completely opposing interests. Anything that benefits the bourgeoisie comes from exploiting the working class, and anything that benefits the working class comes from reducing that exploitation by the bourgeoisie.

"Let's work together" is either the political theory of a child that understands nothing or the intentionally subversive lies by someone that does understand but wants to mislead others. You may as well be telling people in africa to work together with the colonial masters exploiting them.

Shouldn't we be talking to each other instead of downvoting and blocking each other?

Hexbear doesn't even have downvotes.

What is more effective than believing that your country can do better?

This isn't what you want. You do nothing except defend against criticism from people that want to make things better. Because your brain is full of nationalism and you can't help but leap to the defence of the state whenever it is criticised. This behaviour isn't because you want it to be better, it's because you view criticism as a threat.

[–] SamboT@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you, but what option do we have except working with the system?

I don't disagree that exploitation exists. It's hard for me to focus on that when I am benefitting from the exploitation of others.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Constructing a new system minus the limitations of the existing one.

[–] SamboT@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But that seems impossible.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Not impossible, merely very very difficult.

And the alternative is no change and a dying world. So there is no choice whatsoever.