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It presents a slight problem when the ones they're bringing in to deal with the shitty politicians are the people who paid them to be shitty in the first place.

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[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So here's the deal. Republicans are objectively worse. Full stop. Anyone that thinks otherwise is just wrong.

But that doesn't absolve Democrats. Why did they never enshrine abortion rights into law in the decades since Roe v Wade? Why is it every time they have control suddenly they are helpless to actually deliver on their promises? Why do they refuse to do anything beyond lip service for unions? Why won't they get rid of the filibuster? Why didn't Biden even try to expand the supreme court as soon as it was clear it was corrupted?

Democrats are controlled opposition, that's it. When the plebs start getting rowdy they jump in to control the movement and bring it back in line.

Neither Democrats nor Republicans are going to go against the wealthy who own them. And the sooner we all start working in that reality the better.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Right right, that's all fine, but we need to elect minimum 60 Democrats. Full stop. We need to support electing 60 Democrats. We can all gather around and discuss how to sort out our Democrats after we remove the Republican Menace.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You kinda worked yourself into a dead end there. It's impossible for 60 democrats to win in the Senate with the way the DNC currently acts. The idea that people need to just believe in the DNC is never going to sway the average voter who's getting poorer by the day.

We can all gather around and discuss how to sort out our Democrats after we remove the Republican Menace.

Remove it from... What, exactly? Even if they do win 60 seats, do you think Republicans will disappear from existence? They'll fuck around with their lame duck policies and get their ass handed to them by the GOP the next election. And setting all that aside: They could've just fucking gotten rid of the filibuster. The fact they haven't after what the GOP did during Obama's term should tell you all you need to know.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

DNC don't decide if they win, we do. This is our job to do.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 1 day ago

And it's never getting done, is the point here. This talk of jobs and duty will never get voters, no matter how much anyone wants it to.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

60 Democrats HAVE been elected before and nothing changed...

Did you even read my comment?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We had 60 for less than one month almost two decades ago. Since then we've elected less every year and blamed them more every year.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Curious that, if all they need is 60 Democrats, why they didn't seize that opportunity to try and deliver everything they've promised. Working 24/7 to pass bill after bill. And instead just squandered it...

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh yeah they should have asked the house nicely to vote to reform every system in the entire government in less than one month: you clearly do not want anything fixed, why are you being so disingenuous?

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nice personal attack. I guess I made you uncomfortable in your beliefs.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If me asking an honest question is a personal attack, then clearly the truth is your enemy.