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Texas Republican Valentina Gomez sparked outrage after releasing a video proposing public executions of undocumented immigrants who commit violent crimes, claiming it would act as a deterrent.

The video, shared on X, simulated Gomez shooting a hooded dummy representing an undocumented migrant.

Her comments followed the arrest of a Guatemalan immigrant for a subway murder in New York.

Known for far-right provocations, Gomez’s remarks drew sharp criticism from political figures and activists, with some praising her stance while others condemned it as hateful and extreme.

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[–] FiremanEdsRevenge@lemmy.world 58 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Wtf is up with these Hispanic nazis?

[–] kava@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

two major things to keep in mind

a) majority of hispanics in the US have been there multiple generations. while they may hold some varying level of ties to their family's home country, they've more or less been mostly americanized and are effectively just a different flavor of "american"

add in the fact that these are a more socially conservative people who more likely to be religious and it makes sense why they have been moving to the right. GOP could have taken advantage of this a long time ago. I think it's strange that Trump is the one to finally harness this group of people, but I guess reality is stranger than fiction

b) the US isn't stupid and it imports right-wing anti-left people. For example from Cuba or Venezuela. Miami has a massive Cuban population and they're all descendants from people fleeing the communist Castro regime. The Cubans are bred from birth to believe the Castro regime was evil and they're told all about the horrors (conveniently nobody remembers the just as brutal Batista regime, coincidentally supported by the US).

So all it takes is for there to be a connection between "democrats -> left wing -> communist" and all the Cubans turn against the DNC.

what I find fascinating is that you talk to a young Cuban who is one or two generations separated from Cuba, they have all sorts of horror stories and hatred for the Castro regime.

But you talk to an old-timer, someone in their 60s or 70s and they have nostalgia and nuanced views. Sort of like how people view the Soviet Union.

If we're gonna summarize all of this I'd just say this- assimilation. We're watching the process of how Irish went from "ethnic minority" to "white" and hispanics are going through a similar process

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Sort of like how people view the Soviet Union.

I've never met anyone personally who speaks fondly of their time in the USSR. Tankies online who are too young to have lived through it are the only ones.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

There's that infamous quote from Putin- "Whoever does not miss the Soviet Union has no heart. Whoever wants it back has no brain"

People who actually grew up during the Soviet Union and went through the process of collapse and liberalization as an adult experienced quite a chaotic period of time. Your way of life was violently changed, the ideology you were taught disposed of, and you went through economic troubles. It's no wonder some look back fondly

I've seen similar statements from both Cubans and ex-Soviets. One of the main themes is how under liberal societies you are "addicted to money", so to speak. For example in Cuba, you could not get what you wanted. For example you go to the store one day, there's no shoes. Tomorrow, there's no batteries. You could not eat beef, you could not just leave. There were many restrictions.

But you were sort of guaranteed a certain minimum quality of life. You would have a place to live, you would have food. You would have a steady job without worrying about losing it.

Whereas in the US, you have an exponentially higher purchasing power- even the lowest segments of the population. But there's a catch. You have to be working all week to sustain that lifestyle. And the employer can more easily fire you- it's not as stable.

So they look back with nostalgia at what to them seems likes simpler and calmer times. Less stressful

anyhow, to back up my anecdotal experience with data: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/06/29/in-russia-nostalgia-for-soviet-union-and-positive-feelings-about-stalin/

78% of older Russians think collapse of Soviet Union was a bad thing. Majority of Russians view Stalin favorably.

It depends on the country you're from, but it's safe to say many older people have nostalgia and look back at the Soviet Union fondly. I've seen the same thing with Cubans

here's a thread on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/esy6i5/russians_of_reddit_what_is_the_older_generations/

where people share their experiences. Few of the top comments basically mirror what I referenced above

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean it might not be too relevant (as I know the majority of the Hispanics youre referring to aren't Spanish per se), but I'd like to remind people that Spain was a fascist dictatorship up until 1975, when it became a democracy.

I'm sure they at least produce media that's enjoyed in other Spanish speaking countries idk but nonetheless just a thought I had

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francoist_Spain

(It's really not related to the thing here the right wing propaganda Hispanics in America are being subjected to probably isn't from Francoist Spain

[–] AreaSIX@lemm.ee 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Spain didn't exactly just become a democracy after Franco's death in '75, things were very iffy well into the eighties, or at least until they joined NATO in '82. The military even attempted a coup in '81.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Thanks for the elaboration.

I just quoted a Wikipedia generalisation.

I'm not too well versed in Spanish history

[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 8 points 21 hours ago

kinda stockholm syndroming. german christmas market attack was a saudia arabian refugee voting for the newer german Nazis "AfD" that also Space Karen likes.

so the dumbest of migrants seem to overcompensate their lack of identity.

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Spain raped brown people, then made fun of the product of that rape for being brown. This has had very bad repurcussions for racism. And they trained them to hate themselves. So now there's a lot of mexican cucks.