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He generally shows most of the signs of the misinformation accounts:

  • Wants to repeatedly tell basically the same narrative and nothing else
  • Narrative is fundamentally false
  • Not interested in any kind of conversation or in learning that what he’s posting is backwards from the values he claims to profess

I also suspect that it’s not a coincidence that this is happening just as the Elon Musks of the world are ramping up attacks on Wikipedia, specially because it is a force for truth in the world that’s less corruptible than a lot of the others, and tends to fight back legally if someone tries to interfere with the free speech or safety of its editors.

Anyway, YSK. I reported him as misinformation, but who knows if that will lead to any result.

Edit: Number of people real salty that I’m talking about this: Lots

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's a one issue account just report him and leave comments calling out the behavior.

The issue will fix it self.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don’t think it will, though. I’ve reported the misinformation, and it’s still up as of right now.

I honestly am not even sure that mods should be in the habit of deciding that things are “probably” misinformation and removing them. In practice, they are not in that habit, so it’s not a solution. And even if they were, I certainly don’t think that the whole topic should be banned for discussion among the rest of us.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dude. It's Christmas, and even if it wasn't, mods aren't a 24/7 presence.

If something gets seen and handled in a day or two, it's fine for anything that isn't illegal or dangerous to the instance.

Not that the mods/admins have to agree with your interpretation of whatever it is being misinformation to the kind of standard that needs intervention, but there's other reasons it could still be up that are entirely unrelated

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If something gets seen and handled in a day or two, it’s fine for anything that isn’t illegal or dangerous to the instance.

Not that the mods/admins have to agree with your interpretation of whatever it is being misinformation

Completely agree on all fronts. Personally, the idea “just report it, don’t say anything, mods will deal with it with their powers, it’s not for you to make these decisions or talk to one another about these things” seems kind of paternalistic on both fronts. There’s no guarantee that they’ll get it right 100% of the time, and even if they did, it would be good for us to talk about what’s going on when there is an issue that does (or doesn’t, if I am off base about this) impact the nature of the discussion on the network.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree, and I think you approached this well.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 6 points 1 week ago

Thanks! I mean, it has hundreds of upvotes, clearly there are some people who are interested in talking about the topic and hearing what I have to say. I think the number of people who want to dogpile various lengths of essays at me about how entirely unreasonable all of this is, on my part, is maybe not correlated with the community's overall reaction to it. Which in itself is pretty interesting.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

My guy it's fucking Christmas day. ~~The post itself is 2 hours old right now.~~ Your response to that post is a whole whopping 4 hours old right now. Allow the admins to have at least a small grace period where they aren't sitting right at the controls. Lemmy is nowhere near as big as Reddit, with large admin and mod teams able to take shifts.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don’t think moderator action is the right way to handle this. I reported it so they can be aware, but I think community discussion is the right way to handle this.