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He generally shows most of the signs of the misinformation accounts:

  • Wants to repeatedly tell basically the same narrative and nothing else
  • Narrative is fundamentally false
  • Not interested in any kind of conversation or in learning that what he’s posting is backwards from the values he claims to profess

I also suspect that it’s not a coincidence that this is happening just as the Elon Musks of the world are ramping up attacks on Wikipedia, specially because it is a force for truth in the world that’s less corruptible than a lot of the others, and tends to fight back legally if someone tries to interfere with the free speech or safety of its editors.

Anyway, YSK. I reported him as misinformation, but who knows if that will lead to any result.

Edit: Number of people real salty that I’m talking about this: Lots

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This unactionable vaguepost is what suffices as a YSK?

Rule 2- Your post body text must include the reason "Why" YSK

Why should I know this, OP?

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

The person claiming every piece of negative information about russia and china and other similar places is a usa psyop is now quoting rules against a post trying to make people aware of misinformation?! Color me surprised.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh hello mr Russian-pretending-to-be-American.

You've never answered why you pretend to be American while at the same time clearly supporting Russia and spreading Russian propaganda.

Are you such a weak-willed American you've bought into Russian propaganda?

Isn't it annoying when you can't just delete my comment and ban me like you alway do, mr Pro-Russian?

(This guys has said things like "reality has a well known Russian propaganda bias".)

He's pro-Russian, and will never answer that particular question despite being ready to lie about everything else, because he knows even a clear lie of "I hate Putin" written by him in the context of him being American could be reason enough for him to accidentally fall out of a window. Because Russia is a shithole autocracy.

This guy never states shit, goes around spamming wannabe good looking lists of links of shit that's incredibly easily shown to be utter shit, but because there's so much, it'll always just diverge from the actual point.

It's got a name.

An outgrowth of Soviet propaganda techniques, the firehose of falsehood is a contemporary model for Russian propaganda under Russian President Vladimir Putin.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood

Spreading FUD everywhere.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty,_and_doubt

All you need to do to prove this is try to get him to answer whether he's pro-Russian or not. Not a hard question, yet he just can't manage answering it.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, you can say all of this stuff... or you could actually post links to evidence.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Look at his profile.

Then look at my post.

Then look at the modlogs from the times on the screenshots of those posts.

It's common knowledge lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml are complete tankies. D'you know why?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_disinformation

One of the easiest ways to spot Russians disinfo is when they pretend to be stupid to say that Russia doesn't use disinfo, or that at least definitely not on Lemmy, no way.

And the exact same guys absolutely refuse to answer a simple yes or no question. Are you pro-Russian or not? Are you?

While claiming they're American. Saying Russia is doing all the right things while criticising every Russian enemy and supporting China. Literally everything is in line with Russian propaganda. Yet they can't say whether they're pro-Russian or not. While clearly being pro-Russian, and adamantly claiming to be American?

That isn't enough for you to figure it out? Alrighty then, let's do it the way he does; just spam the ever living fuck out of anything tangentially related.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/D8A8A74976408CF7EC329827AFFFD3FC/S0003055421001507a.pdf/div-class-title-why-botter-how-pro-government-bots-fight-opposition-in-russia-div.pdf

https://en.zois-berlin.de/publications/russian-state-sponsored-media-and-disinformation-on-twitter

That 404's, but it's on the wayback machine https://web.archive.org/web/20210916150314/https://en.zois-berlin.de/publications/russian-state-sponsored-media-and-disinformation-on-twitter

In particular, it needs to be established what messages are spread on social media platforms and under what conditions, and whether disinformation is shared more widely than objective reporting. Likewise, future research should consider investigating the effects of disinformation spread by RT and Sputnik on social media platforms.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_disinformation

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/schwerpunkte/EN/disinformation/examples-of-russian-disinformation-and-the-facts.html

https://www.state.gov/russias-pillars-of-disinformation-and-propaganda-report/

What's your theory? That he's an America hating American who loves Russia, hates facts and has made it his life mission to emulate Russian propaganda, but is still too ashamed of it to take a stance on whether he's pro-Russian or not? And that sounds probable to you...?

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Oh okay, so I looked at the post and the posted modlog. Looks like that's all I need to know.

I've never spent so much time writing paragraphs and paragraphs about one Lemmy mod, and maybe you shouldn't, either.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago

So you think it's not good to expose Russian disinformation? Or are you saying he isn't spreading Russian disinformation?

Because you're saying one or the other with this "you're being sad, stop being like that, you're writing too much". This is a forum. People write on forums. If a text long enough to merely have paragraphs instead of pages is too long for you, then I can't help you.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I replied to the person directly with why it isn’t true, and I reported them with an actionable report.

I wasn’t sure about the ethics of brigading or linking directly at the person, but presumably anyone who cares can find them pretty easily, and anyone who reads this and then also reads the misinformation, will be able to see the connection and make their own decision about whether I am speaking truly.

[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

True, this tells us nothing