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Trump rages at Biden for wrecking his plans for executions: ‘Makes no sense’
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That's just like your opinion, man.
Fact of the matter is that he absolutely did commit an act of community defence. He even alludes to that fact in his "manifesto"
Did you bother to read anything I said? Saying you did something doesn't make it true. Trump has also alluded that his foreign tariffs will bring prices down. Does that make it true?
I read what you said. It's irrelevant. You didn't bother to read the room.
What's relevant here and now is that the mass murderers up top are scared shitless, and we need to keep them that way.
Ok, so you definitely didn't read it. Perhaps you looked at the words, but clearly you did not read them. Cool. So glad to see this place become indistinguishable from reddit...
I read them. It's the same incremental change grassroots bullshit that the DNC has been parroting for my entire 44 years of life. That shit doesn't work. Community defence clearly does. Quit being a class traitor and class apologist or get out of the way.
Imagine thinking anything I said is allied with the DNC. Or that said anything about "incremental". Imagine reading what I said and then calling me a "class traitor" or "class apologist". You're either a bold faced liar, have the reading comprehension and politics understanding of a 4th grader, or your definition of reading is the same as that of people who "enjoy reading dystopian books" but complain about books becoming political.
Your high horsed spiel boiled down to two points. 1. The only way to affect real change is with community building. 2. You feel sorry for Luigi because you don't understand why people are celebrating the fact that he reminded us the only way actual change has ever happened historically.
The people are starting to sing, and you're trying to argue against the chorus
Let me give you a helping hand.
If I'm wrong and don't understand, why have none of the millions of people who supposedly back him followed suit? Why are you here instead of out there? Are you getting guns? Are you organizing with other people? Are you doing anything (praxis) towards achieving change in "the only way actual change has ever happened historically"? Or are you just spending your time online talking about it? As I said and will say again, Luigi is the scape goat of “revolutionaries” who don’t really engage in any praxis. The “I” in question (you) gets to remain at home, on their device of choice, talking about how (...) heroic the “some else” who took the risk (Luigi) is.
You also said previously:
I - unlike you it seems - don't want there to be "mass murderers up top" at all, or in fact for there to be anyone "up top" (totally in line with DNC^/s^). You say I don't want change, and that the thing you want is what affects actual change, and yet it seems you want no change other than - as I said in my original comment - for the powerful to be nicer (in this case, due to fear). Yet, somehow, I'm the one defending capitalists and being a class traitor. You also seem to have missed the fact - or just not understand - that the CEO is not the "true" capitalist; those are the owners of the companies, for whom the CEO works.
Lastly, I will reiterate one thing, and add something more relevant. If you have enough people to enact change through violence and defend yourself of the consequences, then nothing can stop you from just creating separate/parallel systems and side step the current one (the DNC totally wants you to do this btw^/s^). And if you actually want to go further than surface level into history, then go look at all the French revolutions as an example, read about them in detail, and see how many ended with an authoritarian in power.
If that still hasn't made my point clear, then nothing I say will; I'm ending the conversation here.
Yes I attent protests, and am part of local organizations. Yes I am armed. No I don't want the people up top, but if they are going to be there, they should live in fear.
As for why there haven't been copycats yet? These things take time to get rolling, and we haven't been presented another easy target yet. I've already said that billionaires should be our targets, not CEOs though not in this thread specifically.