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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

While I agree with the trend for the average person, I think in pure numbers there are always going to be more tech savvy people in the foreseeable future.

Sure, 80% of people online in the 2000s and 90s were all tech savvy hobbyists, but their numbers was low (let’s say a million).

Now only 0.5% might be tech savvy, but that is 0.5% of a billion people, which would be 5 mil compared to 800k above.

I obviously picked convenient numbers but the point still stands, there are lots of tech savvy places today and it’s growing, just not as fast as the non tech savvy crowd unfortunately.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am personally still friends with two people who even know how to navigate their filesystem beyond clicking the downloads or my documents link in the start menu. I hope you're right, but all I see around me at work and personal life is ignorance. People can't even figure out how to use their phones beyond the basics.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, on average you will find less and less tech savvy people in real life moving forward.

But if you were to ask a programming question on the most popular coding site, you would get more responses today than 20 years ago.

[–] savedbythezsh@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, but what's the relative quality of responses? I feel like the bar for "tech savvy" or "competent at programming" has dropped precipitously. And unfortunately, the number of people confidently asserting a wrong answer online is high in my experience, including on programming forums.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Think about it this way,

Has the total number of C++ experts gone down since 20 years ago or has it gone up? The total market share has gone down, but total amount of systems running C++ has increased.

Today is more lucrative to be an expert than 20 years ago, and there are far more positions that offer good money.

It’s also easier to make money by knowing very little programming.

So the question is, would the people capable of being a true expert avoid that path today even though it’s more lucrative, I don’t think so.

The only difference is, 20 years ago, only the true experts were online, now they probably don’t enjoy being online as much and are probably big fans of old school hobbies (like wood working)

[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

I'm also inclined to believe what the other person was saying, because nowadays like you say people don't know how to use their devices to their full potential, but then I remember there used to be a time when I was the only one with a smart phone and everyone else was looking at me like I'm a weirdo for being on this phone during a commute for example, something that today is normal.

The nerdy people are still there and know how to use these tools, the general masses are still as clueless as always, they are just late adopters that never learned anything past what the walled gardens feed them. At least that's my feeling.