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OK, now let's compare: over the last 12 months, how many American citizens murdered somebody? And how many illegals?
And yet we seem to mostly hear about it when immigrants do it, rather than the constant stream of good old American my country tis of thee murders, God bless 'em.
We should realize that leftists and liberals and conservatives are all victims of the propaganda machine.
Illegal aliens committing crimes on US soil are preventable, if they wouldn't have been let into the country and allowed to stay they wouldn't commit the crimes. The spotlight for illegal alien crimes is similar to criminals getting their sentences commuted or released and then committing gruesome crimes.
Further setting another person on fire is noteworthy regardless of the immigration status of the perpetrator.
The conservative position is quite simple: nearly every murder that is done by an illegal is potentially preventable if the borders are properly secured and we are actively deporting illegals when the opportunity presents itself. There would be very few exceptions to this - the very occasional overstayed visa murder, for instance.
Of course we have to put up with the insane levels of crime in the US from local citizens, but illegal immigrant crime is also substantial, and thus it is completely valid to go after it... It's really a two birds, one stone situation.
Well I'm afraid I don't understand the conservative position on citizen criminals. It doesn't seem to get much discussion here at all. Of course I also want Americans to be safe and secure, everybody can agree on that.
However it seems foreign criminals get brought up so often, it is as if our domestic criminals are less important, because I don't see any news articles posed in here about that. Why so much focus on one and not the other?
Conservatives talked a lot about the decriminalization of certain types of crime in California - it was a big theme in like 2022-2023 and still comes up. I think we also do tend to have these conversations whenever there is an event like what happened with George Floyd.
But I think it might be less talked about overall because many conservatives do live in places like Utah, Wyoming, etc., where crime isn't a big issue, and it doesn't seem like a national issue. When they imagine crime coming to them or getting worse, they think of it in terms of criminals making up a greater proportion of the population and moving into new places, which goes pretty well with a fear of an unsecure border.
Yes I think you are definitely on to something. And as such imaginings are perfect grist for the propaganda mill, there may be some chicken and egg factor to how the fear of the savage Mexican Murder-Rapist looms so large in the imagination.
Eh. When it comes to New York a lot of the crime we hear about is from citizens. The guy Daniel Penny had to subdue for example was a citizen.
For all the types of violent crimes you'll hear about illegals committing, they don't usually happen in the New York subway. I'm still surprised this was an illegal rather than a citizen.
Yeah, New York isn't close to the border and they don't have a lot of illegal immigrants.