It's not how you "normally" install stuff on Windows or Mac either. But often times the software you need isn't available in a package manager. If everything was available as a flatpak I would take it all back, but that doesn't even remotely resemble reality.

I find that faster and easier than using a GUI

It is neither of those things. Objectively.

the GUI option is there and dead simple and easy for people who can't be asked to learn how to use the most basic tools on their computer.

The phrase you're looking for is "can't be arsed" but you're wrong anyway. The problem is not that we "can't be arsed", the problem is that it's an unnecessarily convoluted and unintuitive process.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It is neither of those things. Objectively.

Objectively, huh? This is beside the point that was being made, but you're just trying to be obstinate. I can have a package installed by the terminal before Discover (the GUI for installing packages) even opens because it takes so long. Objectively it is faster. Subjectivity it's easier for me.

The phrase you're looking for is "can't be arsed"...

You may be right, but it appears that both are common and people aren't sure of the origin, and "can't be asked" is potentially the original.

The problem is not that we "can't be arsed", the problem is that it's an unnecessarily convoluted and unintuitive process.

And going to a website to download an executable to install a specific piece of software, which you need to give permission when executing to get through the firewall because (to your system) it's just some random executable, isn't? Then having that executable check for updates when launched and sending you to the website to download a new installer. Are you serious? Do you have Stockholm syndrome? Is Microsoft paying you?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Objectively, huh?

Yes huh

I can have a package installed by the terminal before Discover (the GUI for installing packages) even opens

Just lying again. You'd have to go and search what words to type in first.

And going to a website to download an executable to install a specific piece of software, which you need to give permission when executing to get through the firewall because (to your system) it's just some random executable, isn't?

I don't know what you aren't understanding about this. All 3 OSs have package managers that function similarly. What I'm talking about is when the software is not available in the package manager....

Then having that executable check for updates when launched and sending you to the website to download a new installer

You've really never used Windows before, have you? That's once again not how it works. Maybe give it a go and come back after you've got some experience.

Is Microsoft paying you?

You could make an argument for such a thing insofar as time is money. And like they say "Linux is free so long as your time is worth nothing."

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Just lying again. You'd have to go and search what words to type in first.

Lol. No. If I know the name of the package/application, then for me it's just "sudo packman -S [name]

I don't know what you aren't understanding about this. All 3 OSs have package managers that function similarly. What I'm talking about is when the software is not available in the package manager....

There is a package manager for Windows (WinGet I believe), it just isn't commonly used, and definitely not by casual users.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If I know the name of the package/application

How do you know it?

There is a package manager for Windows

Yes, that's what I said.

WinGet I believe

LOL it's just called Microsoft store, my dude.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Microsoft store is not a package manager, it's a marketplace. Those are different things.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago

They're functionally indifferent, for purposes of this conversation.