Technology

60123 readers

3767 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.

Our Rules

Follow the lemmy.world rules.
Only tech related content.
Be excellent to each another!
Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
Politics threads may be removed.
No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

227

Bluesky finds with growth comes growing pains — and bots (apnews.com)

submitted 6 days ago by Joker@sh.itjust.works to c/technology@lemmy.world

48 comments fedilink hide all child comments

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

If anyone truly thought this group of techbros that was spearheaded and organized by Jack Dorsey was gonna somehow be different than the previous iterations, I've got a bridge to sell them. I mean, they owe millions to Blockchain Capital. Cryptobros. But sure, we just need to keep making more billionaires and then ditching their services after they have enough money to deeply influence politics.

Idiots acting like they're against people like Musk but they're just creating another one at a different company.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

they're not creating "another one". Dorsey is already made and he seems to be immune to whatever is working elon's intestines.

ps i don't care a bit about Dorsey either. I just see a difference.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Dorsey already left Bluesky back to Xitter because he didn't like their moderation practices. I'm talking about Jay Graber, who literally got their start developing Zcash, a cryptocurrency. Graber is far from a billionaire at the moment.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Dorsey went back to Xitter!

Why would he do that 🤦

sorry, ignore my previous comment. This too! I need to read a little on this now. Apparently i missed that move

edit: reading this ☞ https://www.piratewires.com/p/interview-with-jack-dorsey-mike-solana

This tool was designed such that it had, you know, it was a base level protocol. It had a reference app on top. It was designed to be controlled by the people. I think the greatest idea — which we need — is an algorithm store, where you choose how you see all the conversations. But little by little, they started asking Jay and the team for moderation tools, and to kick people off. And unfortunately they followed through with it.

That was the second moment I thought, uh, nope. This is literally repeating all the mistakes we made as a company. This is not a protocol that's truly decentralized. It’s another app. It's another app that's just kind of following in Twitter's footsteps, but for a different part of the population.

Everything we wanted around decentralization, everything we wanted in terms of an open source protocol, suddenly became a company with VCs and a board. That's not what I wanted, that's not what I intended to help create.

Around the same time, I found Nostr. We don't know who the leader is, it's like this anonymous Brazilian. It has no board, no company behind it, no funding. It's a truly open protocol. The development environment is moving fast. And I gave a bunch of money to them.

Day by day, I learned that this was actually the path. It emerged from something that was not Twitter-driven, it was a reaction to Twitter's failures, and I thought that was right as well. That's what I should help, and that's what I should support.

So I just decided to delete my account on Bluesky, and really focus on Nostr, and funding that to the best of my ability. I asked to get off the board as well, because I just don't think a protocol needs a board or wants a board. And if it has a board, that's not the thing that I wanted to help build or wanted to help fund.

this sounds alright, no?

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago

But little by little, they started asking Jay and the team for moderation tools, and to kick people off. And unfortunately they followed through with it.

This bit I don't get. Even on Lemmy and Mastodon we need moderation tools and arguably the current provisions aren't fit for purpose. It's not something that can just be pushed to the individual users and most hobbyists who want to spin up public servers don't want to be spending their time wading through reports and CSAM. How to provide a safe environment for users is still an unsolved problem in the fediverse so it's no wonder people drift to corporate controlled servers which say least nominally have the resources to do something about it.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

No problem, not everyone is up to speed on everything. Here's some reading material.

Went back to Xitter and started funding Nostr.

https://thedeepdive.ca/jack-dorsey-leaves-bluesky-board-unfollows-almost-everyone-on-x/