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Of course killing CEOs like that evil f*** head are matters of last resort. It's long past last resort, many people have already died and many more will because of their actions. When is the last resort if not now?
You asked how killing executives changes anything, but we saw effects the day after that evil f*** face died. Another insurance company was trying to do something really s***** and they walked back their policy because of it. So you can pretend that violence doesn't solve any problem, but only if you, to paraphrase the Onion, ignore all of human history.
I think it's tragic. I really wish that what happened wasn't so good for the lulz. I wish people weren't as evil as that f***** up CEO. But we live in f***** up times.
Hi, I think you underestimate how much extra effort it takes to read your comment with that excessive level of self censorship.
That's voice to text, I'm really f****** sorry about it. But I didn't center myself. Google censored me.
The corporal structure itself makes people with certain traits and low empathy rise through the ranks. It a systematic issue. I would not call a person that is doing their job outright evil unless their whole own wish is to kill, torture and emotionally destroy others. Violence can lead to change. One murder cannot. Killing all healthcare CEOs will not. You'd need to replace the government. But that would be really violent and probably cause more suffering in the process. In a democracy if you can actually convince the masses you can shape a country. I like the current public debate, just not the way it was sparked.
If your job involves making decisions that are likely to lead to the deaths of thousands or tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of other people, you have the moral obligation to consider what's right. There's no chance that people with those jobs haven't thought about the effects of their actions. They are knowingly and willingly pressing the button that says to kill more people in order to make more money.
We agree it's their job to do that. The fact that their job itself leads to immoral decisions is one issue, but that doesn't absolve them of personal responsibility.
Do you honestly think that if all of the large healthcare CEOs were shot tomorrow that the people who replaced them would not think twice about the policies that led to said shootings? Just out of basic self-preservation they would cut back on some of the worst policies. Of course they would try to find other ways to get the same results. They would probably also beef up their own security teams. In other words, it would be a partial temporary solution, which is maybe better than no solution at all, but not as good as universal healthcare.