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"I think it's time to tell the military-industrial complex they cannot get everything they want," said Sen. Bernie Sanders. "It's time to pay attention to the needs of working families."

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[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who cares if it has sticking power if it’s produced no results? All that talk of reforming the police has completely evaporated, and that was before Trump was elected.

“Defund” was a terrible word to use and people need to stop using it. Frankly I thought it was already retired.

[–] ghen@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Protests don't work so we should stop protesting? That is honestly the most brain dead thing I've heard yet on the subject!

If you want to retire it, make something better like I already said. We can't retire it until there's something to replace it.

[–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The problem is, regardless of what you actually mean by it in your heart, "Defund" SOUNDS extreme, and people don't listen to extremests. Getting rid of 100% of all law enforcement is an objectively, and verifiably, a terrible idea. They need to be curbed, and trained, and limited, and not be made to feel like they are all a combination of Rambo and Jesus in sunglasses. An ACAB mentality leaves no possibility for improvement, so why should they even try?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

and people don’t listen to extremests.

Which is why Harris beat Trump.

You're right, though. We shouldn't use "defund." It's far too milquetoast.

ABOLISH.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

When did I ever say protests don’t work? What are you talking about? I am saying this specific term did not prove to be good. In fact, it was VERY useful for the right wing media machine to easily twist words and distract from the end goal.

There are other tactics and verbiage that should be used.

[–] ghen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then do it. Make it a bigger deal. But don't just sit there and decry what is actually working as a rallying slogan when you have nothing to contribute. When your slogan is a better slogan with a better message behind it, then I will switch my own tune to your ideas.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It isn’t working! That’s the fucking problem lmao