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As a reminder, ClubsAll is still showing all of Lemmy's content without federating back (clubsall.com)
submitted 2 weeks ago by Blaze@feddit.org to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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A post from 2 months ago which explained the context: https://lemmy.world/post/20694710

I just had a look, nothing has changed, the website is still using Lemmy's content to pretend to be active

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[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The content is coming from federation, so how is it being pushed to clubsall after blocking?

I blocked your instance based on your domain. But because you are using other domains to pull the content, you're still receiving content from the domains you use that I haven't blocked.

My request stays the same, give us some breathing room until some traffic threshold. Is that fair?

What is your plan for what clubsall will look like? I have no interest in killing a new and interesting platform for building community in the lemmy space. But if you're just going to pull content from lemmy instances without giving anything back, that's not building community...

Tell me you've got plans for something other than a content scraper, and I'll happily work with you.

[–] vinay_clubsall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Thank you for responding. Here are my plans

  1. After some discussion with another fediverse developer, he recommended we move to sublinks library. I posted our tech plans here https://lemmy.world/comment/12922172. This will achieve a number of things - move db to postgres, deployment to docker/k8s, enable lemmy clients, make some security changes so our passwords are not exposed, this in turn will enable open sourcing and self hosting. This seems the best path forward.
  2. We almost completed the move when we found out that sublinks library itself does not have federation implemented. I was told it will be picked up in 2025 but it is also being developer by volunteers, so the timeline is not certain. Since we almost finished move to sublinks, as soon as they have federation, we should be able to move very quickly since work on our side is mostly done.

There is almost no traffic today, users are not missing out on any content. Since the timelines are not in my hands, my ask is for admins to give me benefit of doubt and be patient until I wait for sublinks federation implementation (or if clubsall have traffic in which case, users will be missing out on content. In that case, I will have to think of something else)

  1. In the long run, idea is to have an simplified fediverse frontend that can realistically be a real open alternative to reddit.

Feel free to ask me anything else.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

sublinks library.

Do you mean this? https://github.com/sublinks

There is almost no traffic today, users are not missing out on any content.

If there is almost no traffic today, why do you complain about being defederated?

[–] vinay_clubsall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean this library https://github.com/sublinks/sublinks-api

We have a handful of users. Their comments are being federated. They are not making any posts (because without federation there are no replies). Defederation will mean users cannot even comment and will have to abandon ClubsAll. A site being abandoned at this early stage usually means death of site, which I would like to avoid if possible.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://github.com/sublinks/sublinks-api

Are you aware that most of the activity on Sublinks has stopped, with 1 change in November, and the other most recent ones from October? https://github.com/sublinks/sublinks-api/activity

As I mentioned in another comment, why did you not fork a project like https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi which is still being actively developed?

We have a handful of users.

How many do you have at this moment? 10, 25, 50?

[–] vinay_clubsall@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes I am aware, that is why our progress has stopped. I was told they will pickup again in new year.

I just did not know about pyfedi, I will look into it. We have about 10 users in last month.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago

I was told they will pickup again in new year.

I don't know where you got that information, but the whole project just seems stopped at the moment. Development resuming in January would be surprising.

We have about 10 users in last month.

Good to know, thanks. Honestly, for 10 users, you should probably just host a standard Piefed instance, and that would probably be more than enough for your users.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Thank you for the update. I honestly don't mind if you're not there in terms of federating out yet. As long as the plan for the project is to generate connectivity/community in some way, we'll be better off for your project being here :)

[–] vinay_clubsall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Thank you for your support. We will get there.