I mean, today, entirely seriously, I spent about an hour looking at used prices for air receivers for this exact purpose. You can totally get 250 gallon tanks rated to 300 psi that are about the right size to fit one person and all the electrical components inside. Cut off one end and replace it with an acrylic/poly-carbonate dome, add a keel, ballast system, and thrusters on the outside, cover it all with a fairing, and you're good to go!

I'm thinking I could prototype a functional sub rated to 150 m for around $10k. Totally worth it.

Trust me, I'm an engineer as well lol

[–] xenos@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So how does that work, is the 300psi rating calculated by the difference between internal and ambient pressure? Does it not matter whether the greater pressure is internal or external?

[–] HaphazardFinesse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Oh no, it totally matters. In the case of a receiving tank, rated for 300 psi internal pressure vs 1 atm external. The limiting factor there would be tensile strength, or how well the material resists being pulled apart. Sticking it underwater with 1 atm internal would test a combination of compressive and tensile strength, but more compressive (if it were a perfect sphere, it would just be compressive). Good news is, steel is a relatively good choice for both.

Which was one of the complaints about the material choice for the Titan; Carbon fiber has high tensile strength, but low compressive strength. The strength of the hull had more to do with the resin than the carbon fiber itself. In fact, I'd be curious to know if there was even a benefit to using carbon fiber over regular fiberglass. That and it's hard to inspect for fatigue compared to other materials like steel.

Case and point: Deepsea Challenger, the sub used by James Cameron to go to the bottom of the Marianas Trench, had a pressure hull made of steel.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess using propane tanks for submarines is fairly common

https://images.app.goo.gl/jdS5fZ4JaTrgquHv5

http://www.psubs.org/museum/museum_sfphotos/den_03.jpg

http://www.psubs.org/museum/museum_sfphotos.html

[–] HaphazardFinesse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Oh neat! I started looking at propane tanks, then switched to air compressor receivers when I found ones rated for 300 psi, knowing propane is generally 100-200 psi. But now I'm finding some propane tanks rated for 600+ psi...sooooo...guess it depends?