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Pretty convincing explanation of why we should hold Silicon Valley morally accountable for their shitty management. As usual, Ed could have stood to be a little more Marxist; in particular, there is a reason why enshittification and rot naturally happens to companies as they age, and it's precisely the tendency for profits to decline over time!

Bonus sneer: it got double-secret-shadow-banned on HN; here is the submission. Cowards.

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Btw slur against people who refuse to use ai apparently dropped. "Refuseniks". A very Bruce noo moment.

Also a very, google that new word you just invented because this is a very weird reference moment: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refusenik (even if the term itself is very grokAI (aka wordplay that 60 year olds think is edgy or cool, but actually so without edge it will not cut warm butter)).

E: whoops wrong thread, imagine this was in the random sneers thread

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I honestly had no idea of the original Russian meaning of the gloss. To me "refusenik" implies some sort of hard-left hippie.

Edit finally went and read the linked article.

Schneier and Sanders:

We agree with Morozov that the “refuseniks,” as he calls them, are wrong to see AI as “irreparably tainted” by its origins.

Morozov:

Meanwhile, a small but growing group of scholars and activists are taking aim at the deeper, systemic issues woven into AI’s foundations, particularly its origins in Cold War–era computing. For these refuseniks, AI is more than just a flawed technology; it’s a colonialist, chauvinist, racist, and even eugenicist project, irreparably tainted at its core.

But the original term was not for people refusing to take an action - it was the state refusing to allow their actions! It's done a 180, but considering no-one now remembers the plight of Soviet Jews attempting to emigrate to Israel it's not that strange.

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