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Gut feeling is modern ground force, as that's what takes and holds territory at the end of the day, and Ukraine shows that modern AA makes things quite dangerous for modern air units to operate.
Modern Airforce would wipe WW2 airforce like it was nothing. They wouldn't even see the F-35 or out maneuver their missiles. Remember they had no plane based radar, all visual, they wouldn't even know they were already dead.
Modern AA could hinder modern Airforce but the WW2 AF will eventually have to run Sorties into enemy territory or they are just patrolling above their own forces not doing a whole lot. There is a reason modern doctrine starts with establishing air superiority.
There is nothing modern in airforce in Ukraine in either side
Hey, Russia had an Su-57 and an S-70! ...I mean, they had to get the fighter to shoot the UAV down, but still, they were there!
Yeah, but it's not in use in Ukraine (like it would work or make any difference lol, pretty much like the Armata tank). Nothing either side is using was developed in 21st century. Late 20th at most.
F-117 (which is still 20th century but more advanced than cold war era stuff they are using now) and F-35 would shred any AA, in my armchair general opinion of course.
I would argue drones are quite a modern addition to air forces.
Yes BUT! The drones they are currently using aren't really an air force. If they'd be using Reapers and the like yeah, but BabaYaga is not really an air force. I guess we are a bit splitting the hair though here, we could nitpick forever!
Would probably still be enough to give some WW2 troops a lot of trouble.
Drones are army, they're just a fancy grenade/pair of binoculars, when you think about it. Or maybe a missile.
The ones they have been using that fly for dozens or hundreds of kilometers aren't really just grenade or binocular levels of equipment.
Neither are ATACMs. They aren't air force though.
I mean by the fucked up definitions in the US boats, planes and ground troops exist in all branches of the military but if you go by actual technology anything flying for more than a ballistic ground-powered throw (like artillery would have at most) should absolutely be considered part of the air forces.
There are hundreds of primitive suicide planes made of plywood and cardboard that fly every day and do damage on both sides. You can't get more ww2 than that and ecomonically impossible to use modern aa against them, one missile costs more than a hundred probably. There is nothing modern about this war.
Aren't those planes brought up to the air by actual planes? If modern planes have air dominance, then those plywood planes had better have a functioning plywood engine because there won't be anything else to get them skybound.