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Yeah not a liberal and what would you call predatory loans to Africa and export systems of raw goods, or the annexation of Tibet, or the threatened annexation of Taiwan, or the skirmishes in the late 80s for the "South China Sea" which mainly cover reefs that have now been over fished, or even Russian, Tajikistan and Vietnamese land as recently as 2009?
A word you think belonging to you doesn't make it wrong to be used just because you don't like it. It's not even revolutionary just a Latin root word of ruling used for Napoleon using military to gain other counties support, and has been used in lots of ways by lots of people since.
A red lib or a blue lib is still a lib. Even Bloomberg doesn't buy the debt trap idiocy lmao. Washington mouthpiece The Atlantic doesn't either. You want predatory loans? Look at the IMF. China regularly does no-strings-attached loans and regularly forgives hundreds of millions in loans that were interest free in the first place. China has NEVER seized an asset from a debtor. Poor way to do predatory loans, they should ask the US for advice if that's the endgame.
Most debt in Africa is held by western banks and the IMF, who demand you strip your economy for parts like the mafia (who probably got the idea from them). In Sri Lanka, the most quoted example, more than 90 percent of debt is owed to Western countries.
Still not a liberal.
And alright. I understand that other countries are more directly responsible for the economic woes of the world as that is the whole point of them and China is the manufacturer so their issues will be more worker treatment related than economic policy.
You move on to whatever to protect your point of view. You are on a conquest to be self righteous rather than right.
My point is don't seek for other, seek for better. It's not a golden paradise, just another reality that isn't perfect, because it's top busy being a reality.
Conservatism is a form of liberalism.
Not that either.
Why is that I must belong to either of those ideologies? Is it so you can have pre conceived notions a our who I must be in the other side?
As I if can't disagree on the minutia and still be in general in agreement?
It never ends and it's never so simple.
Ok, you're definitely a liberal, if you were anything else you'd just say it, rather than doing this coy bullshit.
lol
Or you never asked and you just kept pushing labels on me that aren't correct. So, I kept pointing out they weren't correct.
Edit: also you replied to not me.
Why would I ask you when I can already see you're a liberal?
Cause you are still wrong. That's kinda the whole point. You'd rather be wrong and feel right. It's completely unproductive even to yourself.
You got to be willing to ask and listen to other points of view and respond to that. That's having a conversation and getting more out of this world else wise it's still just you vs everyone and everyone who thinks they are in the "in" group until they aren't.
This is the Tim Robinson skit about the hotdog man except it's a guy riding in on the most liberal comments
Which part?
Calling out a world leader economic, manufacturing state for their mistreatment of their citizens instead of holding up needless national pride for a country I don't even live in? Cause you are a classic Nationalist.
Heck you might even be Nationalist Socialist at the rate you push specifics onto others that don't match to alleviate your own desire of the world.
Which comments cause you keep just shouting an insult to feel right then high fiving yourself. We can all see you masturbating publicly to this sense of superiority I just am waiting for the post nut clarity to get you to even point out your logic.
Wait did you just repeat the exact same response twice to 2 different people? You just keep that on copy and paste?
I made a response, then quoted it when someone made a response ignoring it.
I'm not sure why you are confused by this.
Cause it wasn't me. And I think you thought it was even though they made mention of Marxism and other points.
I'm confused cause it's confusing. As if you are just trying to cover for something that didn't quite work out and doesn't quite make sense.