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Part Jewish here, yes the Nazi sympathizing was awful. But at the same time, he spearheaded massive improvements for workers.
Does that make up for supporting Nazis? No. But most people are some mix of good and bad
When I was 15 I read a book that said Hitler couldn’t be completely evil cause he improved the lives of the German people. I’d just rather not have had all the bad shit he did.
There's no such thing as completely evil, that's fairytale shit. Every bad person in history was a complete and complex human being with their own motivations. Hitler probably thought he was doing the right thing. That's a lot scarier than the "he was just evil" hand wave.
"nothing scarier than a monster thinks he's right with God" -Malcolm Reynolds - Firefly.
And yes it's definitely much scarier
Hitler did it at the expense of the Jews, gypsies, and others. Ford did it at the expense of the shareholder's profits, see the Dodge brothers
Until he got the whole country bombarded, tons of them killed, and drove the country into the brink of economic collapse? Poor argument. If you're gonna say he did something worthwhile take off the fucking kid gloves and admit no matter how absolutely horrific a manner in which he did it, Nazi experiments advanced knowledge of medicine and anatomy.
Why would I defend the guy when I think he was a prick?
I wasn't saying you were defending him. I was talking about whatever dumb ass wrote the book you read.
Oh, ok. I can’t remember. It was 23 or so years ago, and a Catholic school, so moulding us to a certain viewpoint.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
No worries, I was thoroughly indoctrinated as well.
Those experiments didn’t advance a thing. That’s a myth. They had no scientific rigor. Nothing was gained from that.
Many of them yes, but not all.
Could you point me to the ones that did?
To be fair, not all of the advancements were intentional. Much of modern medical ethics are based entirely on the fucked up shit Nazis did. Off the top of my head though they proved a lot of shit didn't work and invented a high power electron magnescope. I would have to circle back to fully remember everything.